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sbur
08-20-2002, 08:41 AM
I had the honor of beta testing the OS X version of Endnote 6 (http://www.endnote.com), and I just received my copy of the final product. I thought I would share some of my thoughts and experiences with you.

The interface looks and feels very much like Word v. X. The tool bar is similar and the "Theme" is aqua.

Endnote 6 has some new features. First, you can attach graphics with captions, PDF files, Word documents, Excel spreadsheets, etc to references. You can also attach charts and equations. These attached graphics, figures, etc. can be formated into the document as well, though the formating is not very flexible (vide infra). The ability to attach (actually, its more of a link) pdf and other types of documents is very nice. If you have a lot of manuscripts, this could be helpful for keeping track of them. I know that the American Chemical Society uses the manuscript number to keep track of pdf files...unfortunately, this is not very helpful when browsing your collection of files on any given subject. This gives a way to attach the article directly to the reference.

It also offers publication templates. This, for me, is less than useless. Templates are available from the journal web sites anyway, and the layout the journal template uses is much better that the layout Endnote gives you. For those publishing in the humanities, where templates seem to be less available, it might be a very nice feature. Chemists, at least, will not use this.

The integration into Word v.X is very tight. Endnote has its own toolbar in word. This can be very handy. Unfortunately, it appears to be designed for use with Word, and for any other word processor, it is up to you to figure it out. Cite-while-you-write (cwyw) only works with Word. Fortunately for me, I must use Word for publication. Other document formats aren't accepted by the publishers. If you prefer AbiWord, OpenOffice, or even AppleWorks, you're SOL.

I am upgrading from Endnote v 4, so the CWYW feature is new to me. While it is helpful for general things, it is impossible to annotate an endnote with CWYW because the entire document is reformated at specified time intervals, and the annotation is lost. An example of a usefull annotation that I use frequently is "For interesting derivatives of compound 24, see:" (reference goes here). To do this, you must either wipe the EndNote markup from the document or turn off the CWYW feature. Since the mark up is usually removed before submission anyway, neither are bad, just inconvenient that you have to leave these details until the end.

The preferences that control output are very easy to use and are intuitive. This is much improved over older versions of EndNote. EndNote 4 started getting this right, and version 6 has further refined it. Unfortunately, images, charts, etc that you designate to be formated in to the word document have very few options. Endnote inserts a place holder / tagline into the manuscript for where the graphic should be placed. Upon formatting, EndNote builds a list of figures at the end of the document that consists of the image and the caption/legend associated with the image. While it is true that many journals require figures to be listed separately from the manuscript (to facilitate type setting), there are many that now request that images be embedded within the text to facilitate the peer review process. Endnote does not allow the images to be integrated into the text of the manuscript. The developers claim that this feature will be included in the next major upgrade.

Import has some small problems. For example, I can export the citations from the Tetrahedron web page for any given issue of that journal. Mozzilla saves the file as a unix text file. Endnote cannot recognize the unix text documents, so you must open the file with Word and resave it with a different file name. I think this is a growing-pain specific to OS X and Apple's attempt to do away with resource forks. Until developers make applications that do not require these resource forks, this will be a problem. It also attests to the fact that EndNote v6 is a "quick" port from the classic code rather than new code.

Overall, I give EndNote 6 good marks given that I use Word v.X and I have been using EndNote for many years now. I cannot comment on how it compares with other products like BookEnds.

EndNote is available now from most outlets including the Apple store, and it is listed by ISI (the company that developed the program) at $330 for non-academic purchase or $110 for academics. The apple store is listing it at $200, while Macmall is listing it at $165 for non-academic and $89 for students.

For those science people out there who have been waiting on the switch to OS X because EndNote wasn't available, the time has come...and they've even made it pretty easy.

bassi
08-20-2002, 01:20 PM
You cannot use Endnote 6 in OS 10.2 for now. Crashes everytime you open a database or if you get a bit far, when accessing the internet.
I agree with sbur's comments, it's a major improvement over ver. 4, and works very well under 10.1.5.

sbur
08-20-2002, 02:17 PM
Yeah, I thought it odd that there is a big sticker across the back of the CD jacket saying

"As of July 2002, EndNote 6 is not certified as compatible with a beta version of Macintosh OS 10.2 (Jaguar)."

I assume this will be patched soon however. Interested parties are directed here (http://www.endnote.com/ENMac.html) for the latest developments. (Note, when I checked this link, the Mac pages were unavailable....)

Also, you must have the Office v.X Service Release 1 (http://www.microsoft.com/mac/DOWNLOAD/OFFICEX/OfficeX_SR1.asp) installed.

Thundarr
08-20-2002, 03:30 PM
Being able to link the PDF versions right to the references in EndNote is great. I have over a thousand PDF articles that I keep as a library and always wanted to be able them directly from the reference. Now, I can just double click on the PDF image in the reference and it will open in Acrobat or Preview. That is one heck of a feature. Overall, I think EndNote 6 is pretty super. I won't upgrade to 10.2 until they fix EndNote, however.

Harald Mückter
08-26-2002, 06:34 PM
Yeah all these new features are great if you're a heavy Word vX user.
BUT, what do you do if you have to share your manuscript document with colleagues who are still using Word 5.1 and EN3 ?

Any ideas?

sbur
08-27-2002, 07:29 AM
You can exchange unformated documents with impunity. This way your colleague can make substanative changes and the referencing should be unaffected. (It causes problems to have more than one person adding references from different libraries regardless of the version you use.) This it true for ANY word processor that your colleague may use. The only hitch being that Word 6 or greater documents can't be opened by Word 5.1 without a converter. When the collaboration is finished, the person with the library being used should format the paper.

The other option is to remove the EndNote mark-up as you would do before submitting a paper to the publisher ('option-6', I think, but the manual has the details). This makes the formatted references into plain text, and they are no longer managed by EndNote. This document can be shared with any Word v.X compatible word processor. (see my comment about the only 'hitch' above)

Harald Mückter
08-27-2002, 06:29 PM
Thx for the hints. It's not quite clear to me, however, what you mean by "unformated" (without the References or just plain text everywhere?).

- HM -

sbur
08-28-2002, 07:40 AM
Originally posted by Harald Mückter
Thx for the hints. It's not quite clear to me, however, what you mean by "unformated" (without the References or just plain text everywhere?).

- HM -

EndNote places temporary citations within the text. Usually they are contained within brackets (such as: [Jones 1986, #1652]) or braces (such as: {Spanka 2001, #167}) This is just text. It can be shared with any word processor that will open the document. You then tell EndNote to format the bibliograpghy and it replaces the temporary citation with (at least in Word) "Fields" that contain the relevent information. In my case, I have it set to put an endnote number (superscripted) at the point of the temporary citation and the bibliograpghy is built at the end of the document. This last step is what I refer to when I say "formated".

Only after it is formated is the document altered by markup language that other word processors can't understand. (In this case, it is actually "fields" created within the Word Document.)

I suggest you go to their website (http://www.endnote.com) and poke around a little.

There is also a competing product called BookEnds (http://www.sonnysoftware.com/) by a company called Sonny Soft. I have not used it, so I cannot comment on its performance, features, or compatibility. I would love to hear a real review of this product.

DISCLAIMER: I do not work for ISI software (the makers of EndNote) nor do I know anyone who does. I do not own stock (let alone in ISI). I am a chemist working in an academic research lab. I use Endnote primarily as a searchable data-base to keep track of interesting/important articles as they appear in the journals. I also use it when preparing manuscripts and grant applications. In short, I am just a satisfied customer, not an advertiser.

Thundarr
08-30-2002, 12:13 PM
I posted this over in another forum, but I thought it would be applicable here too.

Just a quick little tidbit for EndNote6 users. I have confirmed that opening a database by double-clicking on it results in an immediate crash of EndNote6 before it even starts up. However, if you open EndNote6 first, then open the database from within EndNote6, all is well. So you can use EndNote6 with 10.2. Just don't double click on a database to open it directly.

bassi
08-30-2002, 04:39 PM
Try connecting to a database, like Pubmed. It crashes Endnote on my 10.2 setup.

Craig R. Arko
08-31-2002, 08:30 AM
You might want to read this thread (http://www.macfixitforums.com/php/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=Forum36&Number=406223), which seems to indicate you can get EndNote 6 working in Classic along with Word v.X, as a temporary workaround.

Tell us if this works, please. :)

bassi
09-03-2002, 06:21 PM
That thread was right and I poached this from MFI's top page:

Endnote 6 workaround Several MacFixIt readers working together in the forums have assembled a workaround for Endnote 6, one of the first applications to be earmarked as incompatible with Mac OS X 10.2 (Jaguar). Barry Fishman's procedure:

1. In the 'Get Info' box for EndNote 6, check the box labeled 'Open in Classic Environment'
2. Launch Classic and launch EndNote 6 (you might lose some of your preferences because now you will be using the Classic System's Preferences Folder, but otherwise everything, especially the all-important styles, will be intact). Everything (as far as I can tell) in EndNote works fine from Classic, even the Connection files.
3. Launch Word X (Make sure that you've already installed the CWYW files properly in the Word Start-Up Folder. The EndNote Installer should have done this for you)
4. Everything should now work between EndNote 6 and Word X normally, just as it does when EndNote 6 and Word are running in OS 10.1.x. I tried inserting references with CWYS, modifying them, inserting figures, formatting bibliographies, etc. It all worked!

"Note: If you don't have EndNote 6 already running in Classic, then Word will report that it is 'Unable to locate EndNote 6' if you click on anything in the EndNote 6 tool bar. No problem, just go and launch EndNote 6 (in Classic), and then everyone is happy again."

It works really well and I've had no problems yet. Maybe ISI will take their sweet time now that we know this. ;)

Harald Mückter
09-03-2002, 09:17 PM
May I point out that this workaround leaves users with no Classic installed in the dust!

There is no 'sweet time' for ISI until EndNote 6 is again a fully functional OS X application. Basta!

-HM :-(

bassi
09-04-2002, 02:51 AM
Why not install it if you really need it?
Just takes up around 400 MB.
I'm sure ISI will release a patch soon, which means either in a day, a week, a month or so.

sbur
09-04-2002, 02:45 PM
Originally posted by Harald Mückter
May I point out that this workaround leaves users with no Classic installed in the dust!

There is no 'sweet time' for ISI until EndNote 6 is again a fully functional OS X application. Basta!

-HM :-(


Or check out bookends if you are so down on ISI/EndNote. The link is given above. I'd like to hear some comments on it since I've never used it.

I saw no need to go with 10.2. I don't use instant messaging, and I don't own a cell phone. The only thing it would give me is a small speed increase (no QE for me, unfortunately). So that was a no brainer. I am happily composing with word and endnote....

bassi
09-09-2002, 04:07 PM
http://www.endnote.com/ENMac102.htm

I'll be checking it out soon

Harald Mückter
09-09-2002, 08:24 PM
Well, it looks like the EndNote/ISI guys are listening. A nice move to make the beta available for those who can't wait (ah - that's me!).

- Harald -

wgscott
10-06-2002, 03:51 AM
It appears that 10.2.1 broke the beta-test-fix for 10.2.

bassi
10-06-2002, 05:06 AM
Does using it in classic mode still work for the new beta?

sbur
10-07-2002, 07:56 AM
Good thing I waited to upgrade until I had all my papers finished! It won't kill me now to wait for a couple of months.

Still, it is inconvenient to not be able to search my database. :(

jmb
10-07-2002, 08:32 AM
I am currently using a beta of the Jaguar fix (6.0.1 Bld 400) and have had no problems, even after updating from 10.2 to 10.2.1. The beta fixed the crash-on-open issues for me, and I have had no problems since. As for running EN6 in Classic, just 'Get Info' and check 'Open in the Classic Environment.' I know that this effectively nullifies the main advantage of the upgrade, but it works as a temporary fix if you've already upgraded to Jaguar without realizing that it breaks EN6 (that's what I did).

sbur
10-07-2002, 09:04 AM
I just installed the beta, and it works fine with my 10.2.1 system.

I did a clean install of the system, then copied the apps from a backup to the new system. Everything works fine.

I thought I'd try the beta out to see what kind of crash it had, but it works just fine.

Anyone who is haiving crashes after the 10.2.1 upgrade care to elaborate on where it crashes? On launch? On connection to an online database? On attachment of images/pdf's?

I haven't totally put it through the paces, but it seems to do everything I generally need it to do.

(I have, however, noticed that entering data into the "find"screen is particularly sluggish. It was slow before, but seems REALLY slow now.)

bassi
10-11-2002, 06:27 AM
Just acquired and installed Endnote 6.0.1 (build 400), running on either a TiBook and iMac with 10.2.1 seems to be OK. No crashes yet, and works well with MS Word v.X.1.

Two more apps and I'm Classic free.