A little passed newbie, not quite efficient -- Now What?

[DSHwrd]

Hey all,

Well, I've read both the 'Learning Cocoa' and 'Cocoa Programming for Mac OS X' by Aaron Hillegass (EXCELLENT BOOK!), but now I'm at a point where I have a pretty decent understanding of the Objective-C language (that was the easy part to learn) a somewhat decent understanding of Coca but I have no idea where to go to learn the rest of the stuff I need to know about Cocoa. I have looked at Apple's documentation, and well, it doesn't quite make anything 'click' for me. I mean, it's a good reference, and I'll need it when I'm at the point that I need a reference, but right now I still need a guide of some sort.

Aaron's book does a great job of teaching you the basics of Cocoa, but it leaves so much to be desired (How do I use a textView, what about dock menus, how do I add a picture to a textView, what about dragging and dropping a text file onto a textView, etc... NOTE: These were made off the top of my head, Apple's documents might tell you how to do them, I haven't checked). Anyways, my question is, can anyone steer me in the right direction? I feel like a bird who has learned to flap his wings but hasn't quite been taught to fly (bad analogy, I know. :D).

Thanks in advance,
- Daniel

[DSHwrd]

I'm gonna take it that the lack of replies means I'm SOL? Well, that sucks... Generally right now I'm just screwing around and seeing what works (and it's quite frustrating). If anyone has some advice, feel free to put it here...

Cya,
- Daniel

[nkuvu]

Uh, not to sound mean, but have you tried Google?

There are a lot of online tutorials, especially useful for someone with a little experience.

I can't really point you in the right direction because I'm not really familiar with ObjC yet -- still a C++ programmer by trade.

[hayne]

There are a lot of web resources available for learning Cocoa programming. A good starting point is CocoaDev:
http://www.cocoadev.com/
One thing you will find there is a list of books.

[DSHwrd]

Yea, I've been to cocoadev.com and cocoadevcentral.com, stepwise, etc... I've been to all the sites, I just feel that they don't have anything that I'm interesting in using yet (Trying to get OutlineView down, right now). Was just seeing if anyone knew of any other sites out there.

Thanks,
- Daniel

[vonleigh]

If you have already gone through the books, I'd recommend just jumping into a project or two. If you want to see how something works, read the docs and try and implement it. If you run into trouble there are several mailing lists you can suscribe too and they'll help you out.



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