Where's your dock ?

[robh]

After months of having the dock at the bottom of the screen I moved it to the left so I could have longer OmniWeb windows. It's been there for weeks, took a while to get used to it there.

[Phil St. Romain]

Way to use that poll, robh! :D

I've done my duty and voted!

Mine is on the right, pinned to the bottom with Tinkertool, and about 33% it's full size.

[edlake]

Mine is on the right. I keep it hidden. Actually, I only use it for minimized windows. I use Drag Thing for launching apps and keeping track of them.

[zs]

I keep my Dock at the bottom, but pinned to the right with the help of the fantabulous Tinkertool (http://www.versiontracker.com/moreinfo.fcgi?id=11967&db=mac). Every other place just doesn't feel right to me.

[Craig R. Arko]

On the bottom, pinned to the right. Minimum size with about 33% magnification.

[xchanyazy]

On the right, pinned to the right (top). I noticed that I had to expand it to cover pretty much the whole side, or files placed on my desktop would sometimes be placed in the bottom right corner.

[dbhill]

Apple's default center bottom. Ahhh... symmetry and order.

~Dennis

[Benad]

On my admin account, it's hidden on the right, and on my "main" account, non-hidden at the botton and quite small.

In theory, you shouldn't put anything on the desktop, so right is maybe the best, or at least the "cleanest" choice...

- Benad

[Thundarr]

Cool. Polling. What a great idea!

I keep my dock on the bottom, no pinning, and hidden.

I keep DragThing anchored to the left and piDock on the right. That way I have access from all sides of my screen.

[aiBoek]

I keep it at the bottom, pinned to the right. Hurray for TinkerTool!

Sometimes I use DragThing, with the process dock on the left "pinned" to the top, and a launch dock on the left on the bottom side. The only reason I don't always use it is that when I have apps launch at login they always crash immediately :eek:. Does anybody recognize this? What should I do about it?

aiBoek

(Why is this forum so restricted on smileys? I had planned to us three of 'em, but not even two are accepted!)

[j|m]

I've played around with all of the various options - this was with tinkertool, under os x 10.0.* - but never really found anything better than bottom/center. it strikes me that apple put it there for a reason.

[yuriwho]

Mines on the right pinned to the bottom. Perhaps the poll should have more selections. I wonder how many people have it pinned to the top on the right..or left..etc.

Y

[tomsinclair]

Bottom and centered, as God intended.

[Chas]

I put mine on the right, pinned at the top. My brother the unix geek looked at it, and said "ooh, that's rather NextStep-ish, isn't it?" I dunno, I never used NextStep.
I work at 1280x1024 and it helps to use the right side. Most programs don't need windows that open all the way to the right, so the dock gets in the way less often. I pin it to the top because it's more important to have the Finder icon pinned than the Trash icon, you use the Finder a lot more than the Trash.

[Peganthyrus]

Left side, pinned to the bottom with Tinkertool, kept hidden.

No magnification, scaled to a little bigger than icons found back on OS9. The trash is always half-hidden by the CPU monitor floating window when I bring the dock up...

[JayBee]

Got mine on the left, hidden and magnifying... makes most sense to keep it there, as I'm running on an 800*600 iBook, and real-estate is pretty expensive ;)

Just a question, to those who have "pinned" the dock to a corner - do you have magnification switched on? Just I've seen a lot of complaining (not here!) about the dock being "centred". However, if magnification is on, I think it really has to be centred from an ergonomic point of view:

If you move the pointer over an icon near the middle of a centred dock, you'll see that it gets bigger and stays in the same place, while the other icons skooch out of the way. You'll notice that the "hotspot" for each icon remains the same, the rest of the dock "moves out of the way" - to click the wastebasket, the mouse is always in the same place on the screen. If you "pin" one side of the dock, this functionality must be lost?

I haven't tried it, but what happens if the dock is pinned to the bottom left, and you run the mouse in from the right to select the wastebasket? Does it not slide away to the right, out from under the mouse?

[JBrown]

On the left, pinned to the top, and hidden. The trash is always exposed (when my cursor is hovering around it), and it kinda reminds me of the old Apple Menu, but without all that annoying clicking 'n' such.

[didde]

Minimum size, right pinned on the bottom..

Roughly 15% magnification.

I like it small and tidy

:)

[level9]

Mine is on the bottom, hidden. I also use DragThing, and probably should just go ahead and disable the Dock entirely. I've tried just about all the launcher type apps, and have yet to find anything come close to DragThing, I've used it for about 4 yrs. now.

[jwalker]

On the left for 2 reasons,

1) my screen is wider than tall (19inch) and it allows me more vertical real estate.

2) a right mouse click* on a folder placed in the left side dock opens it to the right very much like the old(sorry) mac os menu we used to know.

* you can do the same with control click on a one button mouse or just hold the mouse down briefly until the menu expands.

[TenaciousJ]

left, pinned to top, hidden.

It just seems better there ergonomically - close to menu bar commands, and when I am on a OS 9 machine (most of our office is 9 still) and I go up there to show the dock, I just move up a little and use the apple menu (after I curse OS 9).

I usually just apple-tab through apps, and launch them from a folder of aliases (actually 2 folders - X and classic) placed on the dock.

Every once in a while the dock gets in the way when I'm working on the edge of a photo or something, but I can live with it.

[drjones]

on the right, on this Pismo at 1024 with 37 or so icons, I pull the size up till the dock won't move much. no pinning, no hide, no DragThing, yet. no disks on the desktop, either that just means mouse movement. I use the "tandem" script in column mode with a little resizing so there's enough pixels in between to get at stuff underneath.

[saint.duo]

Bottom Center

When tinkertool first came out (and even before that with the dock menu hack), I tried every combination possible, but could never get used to it anywhere but bottom, dead center, no magnification. So, it has stayed there. Now that I have a new 17" monitor, screen real estate is no big deal.

[lerkfish]

I experimented with different placements, but the classic apps I use tend to work better with the dock at the right top. (photoshop, golive and freehand).
It integrated better with the app's palette placement I was used to.

Now that I've had it there for a while, when I log in as root, it seems odd to see it at the bottom.

go figure.

[WillyT]

The Gmone-panel is on the Left, OS X Menu on top (duh). Gnome Menu snuggled directly below that, Drive Icons on the right (8 partitions), and the Dock invisible and hidden right where it started on the bottom.

[AHunter3]

MacOSXVolume/Disabled X Dock/Dock

[rebug]

On the bottom, centered, minimum size, maximum magnification.

[Marcwic]

Mine is at the top! (Used a tweak program)

but when I am not showing off, it's in the default place - very small. All my folder icons are also small (except desktop icons which I hav set to massive!)

[ephelan]

Your poll didn't leave a box for those who have hidden the box, like me. Personally, I like that option a lot as the dock is out of the way except when it's really wanted.

all the best.
E:o

[tncook]

Since i started using OSX DP4 the dock was at the bottom center and it feels wrong anywhere else. Now that i have 2 monitors at 1600x1200 having it on a side makes it too far away.

size: 33%
magnification: 40% (just so that it reacts a little bit)

[SnobbyRobby]

Funny, I started a similar thread in another forum

My dock is positioned bottom, center - feels the most natural there. I keep magnification "on." I like the way the icon "gravitates" and "greets" the pointer as I sweep my mouse from right to left.

[sbur]

On the bottom, in the center. Hidden, no magnification.

It's taking me a while to get used to it, but I'm starting to like it. I still use the terminal to launch most things, but....I'm slowly using the dock more an more.

[Phil St. Romain]

Not exactly "on thread," but in the spirit of things, I just learned that you can hold down Shift, click on the separator in the Dock, and drag left or right. The Dock peels off and moves where you're dragging. I didn't know that. Pretty cool. Give it a try.

[matt_s]

I've disabled the dock on my user mode/profile/permanent file or whatever that thing is. Through multifarious 3rd party apps and hacks, I've done as much as possible to try to make my system more like an actual Mac OS and less like OS X, NeXTStep or ToyStory-Aqua-licking-shadow thing. My computer is almost a real Mac now!

I simply don't care for the dock because it's not smart enough to understand where windows dwell or vice versa. Since Apple removed the ability to grab and drag a window by it's edges, preferring a shadow effect over something actually useful, sometimes, I can't get to the top of a window nor can I get to the bottom of it. The window simply cannot be adjusted, and stays obscured by the dock - and the menu up top. This is basically ridiculous behavior for an OS and hence, I disabled the offending obstruction.

I am under the belief that the ability to re-position and/or manage a window is a key feature - and requirement - of a windows-based GUI. OS X violates this critical rule, IMHO, as windows don't respect the dock's position at all. Can you imagine the Task Bar in MS Windows being violated by some open window in some app? Hardly... it's GUI 101.

Looking forward to the coming Jagwad update... hopefully, we'll get some snappiness to this young dog - and who knows? - maybe some enterprising developer will come up with "EdgeGel," allowing users to grab a windows edge! Or maybe a new shareware program - "Dock Respect" - windows cannot protrude beyond the dock's border (or the menu up top for that matter)!

[bahamutX]

On my brother's comp where there's the 21 inch monitor, the dock is at the bottom because the resolution is cranked up to the highest in my 15 inch studio display, the dock is pinned at the right to save precious space

[Phil St. Romain]

I've done as much as possible to try to make my system more like an actual Mac OS and less like OS X, NeXTStep or ToyStory-Aqua-licking-shadow thing. My computer is almost a real Mac now!

We hadn't had one of these in awhile. Yes, by all means, make it look any way you want . . . just like you could with OS 9.

Oh, wait:

- only Platinum theme there.
- no column view Finder.
- only one finder window.
- couldn't drag windows by the side in System 7
- etc.

I'll go along with your point that the Dock overlapping with windows can be a nuisance, especially with magnification turned on. What I've done is set my window sizes so they don't overlap, and then that's that! Otherwise, just hide it and have the whole desktop to work with.

You might check out that Aqua vs. Platinum thread to see how Mac users feel about ToyStory-Aqua-licking-shadow thing. It seems to be quite popular, and that very few would want to return to the drab old times of Platinum.

Phil

[matt_s]

PHIL SEZ: "You might check out that Aqua vs. Platinum thread to see how Mac users feel about ToyStory-Aqua-licking-shadow thing. It seems to be quite popular, and that very few would want to return to the drab old times of Platinum."

What? You're kidding, right?

Thanks, Phil - I guess I understand. However, I'm not really interested in what's "popular," or what's not. If that interests you, that's cool. I never liked NeXTStep, and I am not a fan of OS X... but I am a Mac OS guy inside and out.

Shadows on windows instead of utility of being able to grab and move and manipulate, IMHO, is not the mark of an advanced & modern OS but a step backwards. I still believe the dock is annoying, a holdover from the early '90's, but Steve loved it then and is determined to shove down every Mac user's throat. Steve was quoted more than a decade ago, saying that if NeXT had the installed base that Macintosh did, UNIX would become a mainstream platform. When NeXT folded, he refused to give up, since... well, you know Steve - he hates losing. He has never forgotten his failure and is determined to make his awful mistake right. So, we now have an OS that has already bombed once - badly. So, like it or not - you are now a NeXTStep guy. Me, I'm still a Mac man.

I believe the dock is the clumsiest and most antiquated methodology for managing anything - at more than a decade old, it's way past it's prime.

As a holdover from the early '90's, the dock still carries all the problems it had back in 1989-91, and it sucked back then. I am not the best person to debate this with, since I really, really, really didn't like NeXtStep, even up to v3.2, and OS X is really, really, really just like NeXTStep.

However, I have always loved the Mac OS, but I believe 'NeXTStep-version 4', aka OS X, aka ToyStory III; that lickable, loveable UNIX darling, is NOT anything near the Mac OS I loved. But in the face of complaints and threatened lost sales from both the hardware & software perspective, Steve relented, and had his boys make OS X at least "Mac OS-like," for awhile - until he can finally put a stake in it's old GUI heart. As the versions of X move forward - 11 - 12 - lucky 13 - etc. - the last beauties of the Mac OS will be left behind.

Not many will notice, save us old farts, but the UNIX geeks will overrun the place and commands lines and terminal interfaces will creep over all of us.

Oh, well - hell, by that time, I will have put my last computer to bed, hopefully, never to have to hit another damn keyboard again, saved by the grace of God, and will be flyfishing for the elusive cutthroat trout and speaking with actual human beings, all to my heart's content. Us old Mac guys will be phased out, and no voice will be left for Steve and his minions to fret about!

Heck, thanks to Steve for Classic, anyway, and thanks for being able to have two start-up folders on the same partition. That way - when OS X is totally freaked out - I can still boot into Mac OS 9.2, and empty the trash that can't be emptied, and rename the folders or files that can't be renamed, even with root "privledges." I never thought that someone else would have to grant me the privledge of working on my own computer, I always thought that was a Microsoft-type thing. OS X is a joke.

Remember > User = Permanent File. And you don't want anything nasty going into your permanent file, young man!

Da dock sucks, man. Has for more than a decade.

Be kind, have fun! :-)

[Phil St. Romain]

Thanks, Phil - I guess I understand. However, I'm not really interested in what's "popular," or what's not. If that interests you, that's cool. I never liked NeXTStep, and I am not a fan of OS X... but I am a Mac OS guy inside and out.

Well, same here. And, presumably, the 85% or so who voted they prefer Aqua (including the Dock, I'd guess) over Platinum are Mac-lovers, too, who have more smarts between their ears than merely wanting to use what's popular.

I've always found this argument that OS X is not a "real Mac OS" kind of silly, quite frankly. We're told things like it can't be a real Mac OS because it doesn't have spring-loaded folders, windows you can grab on the side, the old Apple menu, etc. Meanwhile, OS X runs on a Mac, runs Mac software, has drag and drop, graphical interface, etc.--but "it's not a real Mac!" If one has such a narrow definition of a Mac so as to include only what OS 9 had, then let's be done with un-Mac-OS things like pre-emptive multi-tasking, memory management, and memory protection. The old Mac OS was very poor in these areas, but, hey, at least it was a "real Mac OS."

I still believe the dock is annoying, a holdover from the early '90's, but Steve loved it then and is determined to shove down every Mac user's throat.

Absolutely wrong! Nothing shoved down your throat, for you don't have to use it, and, again, the plain fact is that most who use OS X would probably say that Steve is right about the Dock.

Steve was quoted more than a decade ago, saying that if NeXT had the installed base that Macintosh did, UNIX would become a mainstream platform.

I think he was right about that, too. Look what's happened to the Mac OS market share during that time.

When NeXT folded, he refused to give up, since... well, you know Steve - he hates losing. He has never forgotten his failure and is determined to make his awful mistake right. So, we now have an OS that has already bombed once - badly. So, like it or not - you are now a NeXTStep guy. Me, I'm still a Mac man.

Your Mac-Man Medallion is in the mail with a certificate signed by Guy Kawasaki and Steve Wozniak. ;)

But now, are you telling us that Steve Jobs forced Apple to buy NeXT, and that Apple had no choice in this? And are you saying that OS X is simply NeXT? If so, you are badly mistaken on both points.

I believe the dock is the clumsiest and most antiquated methodology for managing anything - at more than a decade old, it's way past it's prime.

But that "youthful," 18-year-old Apple menu . . . ?

I really, really, really didn't like NeXtStep, even up to v3.2, and OS X is really, really, really just like NeXTStep.

Just like it? You see no difference at all? You jest, no doubt!

Not many will notice, save us old farts, but the UNIX geeks will overrun the place and commands lines and terminal interfaces will creep over all of us.

Notice what? You think us "young farts" (age 52, here) haven't noticed that OS X is different from OS 9?

I've been using OS X since Public Beta, and I have never had to use command line to accomplish anything. I know nothing about Unix, and use only the gui to accomplish tasks. Sounds pretty Mac-like to me.

What I think is that a lot of you "old farts" are just too stubborn and set in your ways to develop new work habits, and many of you have got some kind of resentment toward Steve Jobs that just oozes out all over your posts. What's good is that you can just keep on using OS 9, the last of the "real Mac OS's," and probably for months to come. Meanwhile, OS X will keep evolving, and maybe it'll have what you want. Maybe not. Some "old farts" will be left behind. That used to bother me, but it really doesn't any more as I've become convinced that there's absolutely no way that Apple will ever please some of them (and I don't necessarily mean you, matt). They'll get left behind, and that's too bad, but I don't think Apple is to blame for that. Keeping the "old farts" happy hasn't gained Apple any market share, and for every one lost, there will be more than one to take his place with the new markets opened by OS X.

. . . I can still boot into Mac OS 9.2, and empty the trash that can't be emptied, and rename the folders or files that can't be renamed, even with root "privledges." I never thought that someone else would have to grant me the privledge of working on my own computer, I always thought that was a Microsoft-type thing. OS X is a joke.

Geez, I can empty the trash and rename folders without rebooting or logging in as root. Why not troubleshoot your problems? And if you can log in as root, then it must really be your computer and so you don't really need anyone else's permission to use it. In fact, why not just stay in root all the time--that was pretty much your situation in OS 9, unless you'd set up Multiple Users and restricted your own user profile. What's the difference? I don't get it.

I have sympathy for some of the frustrations you're expressing, but not for the overall tone and message. We do have a relatively young OS in X, with a few kinks to work out yet (some of which you noted), but which, I am convinced, is nonetheless moving in the right direction.

Phil

[Craig R. Arko]

I'm still ticked about a game I have that broke after upgrading from a 512K to a Mac Plus. Damn ROM's. You call that progress. ;)

BTW, Matt, welcome aboard. You may find you can get real answers here if you ask first and come out swinging second.

[matt_s]

Thanks for the replies, gents. At this point, we're still not impressed by X, we just think it is either underpowered, over aqua'ed, or both. It's slow, even with 1G of RAM in a G4 tower, and lacks basic features an OS should have - window positions should stay put once they're adjusted, windows should be able to be grabbed at the edges, and features such as the ancient dock should be re-thought. What benefit is there for column view when after you've adjusted the width of the columns to better suit your needs, it must be done over and over again each time a Finder window is launched? As much as we all love doing the same thing over and over, we believe an OS should conform to the user's wishes, not the other way around.

We made the mistake of putting a folder on the dock on one machine (G4/933,1G,10.1.4), a folder filled with email attachments. The folder simply cannot be accessed, trying to results in spinning beach ball death, it's simply too jammed with files for OS X to be able to handle. Not good when a folder can bring down the whole OS.

We will be purchasing almost 2,000 computers this year and simply due to the proliferation of .DS_Store files across the network, we see no way that we can connect Apple X machines, and manage that on our network (our tests with just 3 machines connected led to numerous .DS_Store files scattered across folders, an extremely annoying situation).

OS X may get faster, may get features, may get utility and may turn out to be a reasonably decent, albeit long in the tooth, OS. As I said earlier, I'm hopeful that I'll be flyfishing in glorious retirement by then, and not have to deal with it anymore! :-) Have a great week!

[Phil St. Romain]

matt, there are solutions to most of the problems you're posting, including ways to boost speed. FWIW, OS X has performed very well on benchmarks when put up against OS 9, especially when multi-tasking is taken into account. Also, I have no troubles with retention of window sizes, nor with opening large folders in the dock.


Phil

[AHunter3]

Fear not, matt, you are not alone (not even in here!). My Dock is disabled, my Aqua is swapped out for Classic Platinum, mywindows Windowshade instead of minimize, and with a bit of 3rd-party assistance I have an applications menu, an OtherMenu-style launcher, and an Apple menu that works like an Apple menu.

[Marcwic]

Originally posted by matt_s

OS X may get faster, may get features, may get utility and may turn out to be a reasonably decent, albeit long in the tooth, OS. As I said earlier, I'm hopeful that I'll be flyfishing in glorious retirement by then, and not have to deal with it anymore! :-) Have a great week!

My Palm m105 running Palm OS 3 multitasks better than OS9, my windows machine doesn't stop when i open a menu, or hold down the mouse, and my OSX machine multitasks and never crashes, it works and works well, and at the end of the day, that's all i care about. :rolleyes:

[bigmamma3]

I've disabled the dock after installing LiteSwitchX1.0.

[Mikey-San]

I keep mine on the left and pinned to the bottom.

Normally, it looks like this:

www.mikey-san.net/dual.jpg

But last night, I got a little out of hand:

www.mikey-san.net/dockfun.jpg
www.mikey-san.net/dockfun2.jpg

;-)


-/-
Mikey-San

[RacerX]

Right, pinned at the top, with the OPENSTEP like clock just below the Finder icon.

To add to what Phil was saying:

Many of the people who created the original Mac OS left with Jobs to form NeXT. If NeXT was a failure it had more to do with the OS costing $800 per license than anything to do with the workings of the operating system. Also the last version that NeXT put out was OPENSTEP 4.1 (not NEXTSTEP 3.2, or 3.3 which was the last of the version 3 releases), and Apple released OPENSTEP 4.2 after acquiring NeXT (and the actual end of the line for that OS was Rhapsody 5.6, aka Mac OS X Server 1.2).

I don't know if you have noticed this or not Matt, but most of the top positions at Apple are currently filled by former NeXT employees.

One other small note on the history side. NeXT and Sun had started down a road that would have made the NeXT interface and the OpenStep programing environment the default on Solaris (you can still download versions 1.0 and 1.1 of Solaris OpenStep and use them in place of OpenWindows and CDE on Solaris 2.4 and 2.5). OpenStep could have been what Java is today had Apple not bought everything and then killed the cross-platform runtime environments (I still have Yellow Box installed in Windows NT 4.0 for when I need to use Windows). NeXT was far from a failure, specially if you consider the price at which it was purchased (4 times what Be, Inc. was going for and Be only folded last year).

[petey]

- right side, pinned to the bottom
- always showing
- full transparency
- the slightest hint of magnification, just for the joy of quartz

i've stopped using DragThing. now i keep primary apps in the dock, and get at the rest of my stuff with MaxMenus and LaunchBar.

[Elessar]

On the right, pinned to the top, transparent.
I don't have any apps in the dock so it only shows those which are running, I keep 3 folders there (with custom icons) with aliases to my apps/utilities/games for quick launching (one click access - control click defined button on my mouse).

[chug]

Ive got my dock down the bottom and I have it so it pop up and down atm. Ive got a nice picture of a old actor called Vincent Price choking himself :)

It suits me fine.. for now anyway ;)

[dn15]

I like my dock on the right. Screens are wider than they are tall (of course), and I usually need the height more than the width. As far as why I have it on the right as opposed to the left, I did it because that's where the desktop icons always were in Classic. Having my Dock on the left side seems too Windows-ish. ;)

[Jacques]

I enjoy my dock on the right, pinned (with TinkerTool) to the bottom corner and made somewhat transparent (with Visage).

[vickishome]

I tried all kinds of places, but it only felt right when my dock was on the bottom, center, hidden and no magnification.

I need the space as the sides are just too short. I already have 44 icons on it, and I still don't have everything I need on there. I'm going to have to find an alternative as it's getting hard to find what I want. Trying to quickly find icon 23 from the left is getting a bit tedious.

What I want are more separators. Actually, I'd like to color the icons (or the background to the icons). If I could group specific icons by color, then I could look for the 3rd icon in the red group instead of icon 23 from the left. Color coding or at least separators would speed things up for me.

Plus, I'd like more control over the placement of the icons. I want to tell an icon where it should pop up when it becomes active (opened the app) and have it remember that spot the next time, even though I don't keep it permanently on the dock.

[Jacques]

You sound like a perfect candidate for LaunchBar (http://www.obdev.at/products/launchbar/) or DragThing (http://dragthing.com/).

Both are excellent and should be used, in my estimation of functionality - to LAUNCH programs. (I use the Dock to hold a PrefPane shortcut, calendar display, several folders and to monitor what's up and running.)

Test out both, then perhaps invest in the winner!

Jacques

[vickishome]

I have DragThing, and have even paid the $$ for registration, but I have not invested the time in order to use it efficiently. Upon first glance (which I know isn't fair to any app), I could not find a way to (1) make the durn thing smaller and (2) put more than just 8 icons on each tab. I just may have to read the docs to figure out how to use DragThing correctly.

UPDATE: LOL! Ask and yee shall receive! I just fiddled with DragThing and discovered that I can very easily add more "blanks" to add more icons to each tab! Looks like I have a project to play with now! :D

Now if I can just figure out how to make those icons about 1/2 the size they are now, I'd be in business. :)

[Jacques]

You'll figure it out. DragThing is CRAZY customizable, you can really fix it up if you take the time..

Definately one of the ALL TIME best Mac programs, especially in the pre-ten arena..

[vickishome]

Yup, I can already begin to see the possibilities. I've just sat here and played with it a little, and I'm already discovering new things I can do. I will definitely crack upen the docs and learn how to use it properly... right after I finish the osxguide (I have finally reached the Unix overview part).

So many docs... so little time. :D

[gkkk4]

On the right, because I used to like Application Switcher, icons only, in that location, so it feels familiar to me. I'm currently trying Dock out at 32x32 pixel size, seems to be ok.

You all keep turning me on to so many cool little tools, utilities, applets - what's this DockThing everyone's mentioned???

Cheers,
Gurukarm
:cool:

[Jacques]

DragThing 4.3.1 (http://dragthing.com/english/about.html) arrived yesterday, check it out.

See several posts above..

Jacques

[armin]

I have it pinned to the bottom on the right side (at about 25% of the original size).

I use the Dock for holding the "most important" apps (Terminal, Internet Explorer and Entourage), and aliases to my home-directory and to the Applications directory (which gives me access to all my documents, mp3, pictures, ... and to all other apps installed).

The huge amount of other apps/tools I use - more or less frequently - are kept in DragThing which recides in the lower left corner of my TiBk.

[SunByrne]

As someone said, most displays are wider than they are tall, and this is particularly true for my cinema displays and TiBook. So my dock is on the right, fairly small, a little magnification, and always visible. I like be able to see what's running without having to mouse over to the side.

[9KILLER]

It was on the right, pinned at the end (bottom), but since I installed jag, I actually have icons on the desktop so now it's on the bottom, pinned at the end (right). I need the trashcan in the bottom-right corner.

Plus, I hate centering things.