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sao
01-09-2003, 04:40 AM
In my main Fink installation on a desktopG4, I had the xfree86-threaded packages installed. So, as a test, I decided to install Apple X11 on this system and keep also the Fink xfree86-threaded packages. Two reasons why I did this:

1- I read a post by Martin Costabel and Haroon Sheikh where they talked about the subject of the next release of XFree86 (4.3) being threaded:


Martin Costabel:
A related question: Do you plan to release a thread-safe version in the future? This would be important, because:

a) xfree86-4.3 which will be released soon will be compiled with threading enabled by default

b) There are applications that need it.

Haroon Sheikh:
We'll be syncing up with xfree86-4.3 at some point, so we should be picking up that change also.

I read somewhere that xfree86-4.3 will be released officially at the end of January.

2- The possibility that If and when the source code for Apple's X11 becomes available, maybe somebody can make a threaded version of that, available as a package.

So, although I knew I had Fink xfree86-threaded version installed and if I installed Apple's X11, I probably would need to recompile some x11 apps. I went ahead and did the following (which I learned from posts at the fink-users list):


sudo dpkg -r --force-depends xfree86-rootless-threaded xfree86-rootless-threaded-shlibs xfree86-base-threaded xfree86-base-threaded-shlibs


Install X11User, X11SDK

sudo mv /usr/X11R6 /usr/X11R6_bak
sudo mv /etc/X11 /etc/X11_bak

fink install xfree86-base-threaded
fink install xfree86-rootless-threaded

sudo cp /usr/X11R6_bak/bin/Xquartz /usr/X11R6/bin
sudo cp /usr/X11R6_bak/bin/quartz-wm /usr/X11R6/bin
sudo cp /usr/X11R6_bak/lib/libapplexp.1.0.dylib /usr/X11R6/lib

Make yourself an "X11" directory in your home directory that contains these three Apple X11 files:

Xquartz
quartz-wm
libapplexp.1.0.dylib

mkdir ~/X11
sudo cp /usr/X11R6_bak/bin/Xquartz ~/X11
sudo cp /usr/X11R6_bak/bin/quartz-wm ~/X11
sudo cp /usr/X11R6_bak/lib/libapplexp.1.0.dylib ~/X11

And then, after your daily 'fink selfupdate-cvs' you could run this script (by Douglas Theobald ). Replace "yourname" with your real home directory name:


#!/bin/sh

cp /Users/yourname/X11/Xquartz /usr/X11R6/bin
cp /Users/yourname/X11/quartz-wm /usr/X11R6/bin
cp /Users/yourname/X11/libapplexp.1.0.dylib /usr/X11R6/lib

ln -sf /usr/X11R6/lib/libapplexp.1.0.dylib /usr/X11R6/lib/libapplexp.1.dylib
ln -sf /usr/X11R6/lib/libapplexp.1.0.dylib /usr/X11R6/lib/libapplexp.dylib


Then, I wrote my ~/.xinitrc file with:

source /sw/bin/init.sh

xterm -geometry 80x50+494+51 &

exec quartz-wm

After, I learned that I can actually run both XDarwin and X11 side-by-side if I issue this command:

sudo defaults write org.xfree86.XDarwin Display 1


So, the last change for me was to have one ~/.xinitrc file that runs the correct window manager, depending upon how X is started, and thanks to a script by Aaron Magill at the fink-users list, I could do just that:

I added the script to my ~/.xinitrc file, and it seems to work fine:


source /sw/bin/init.sh

if [ X$DISPLAY = "X:0" ]; then
#
# Assume Apple X11 and start up accordingly
#
/usr/X11R6/bin/xterm -geometry 80x50+494+51 &

exec /usr/X11R6/bin/quartz-wm
else
#
# Assume XDarwin
#
/sw/bin/autocutsel &

gkrellm -w &

exec blackbox
fi

This relies on the defaults command given earlier to force XDarwin to use display :1, instead of the default of :0
(you can also edit ~/Library/Preferences/org.xfree86.XDarwin.plist with a text editor and change the Display parameter)


When my installation collapses, I'll let you know.


Cheers...

Glanz
01-13-2003, 08:15 AM
Originally posted by sao


When my installation collapses, I'll let you know.


Cheers...
I have a similar setup Sao. Nothing has collapsed yet. (I almost did, but both X11's are running rather well). I must admit though that I find XDarwin quite superior in many ways, too numerous to name. Reinstalling XDarwin over the top of A-X11 has solved many problems for me. I wouldn't recommend this for the normal user because this requires much tweaking as you know. In any case, I am seriously considering getting rid of A-X11 altogether. I can see no advantage to using it whatsoever. That little Quartx-wm simply isn't worrth the hassle, and the only things that Apple X-11 has that XDarwin doesn't are glitches.

sao
01-13-2003, 12:21 PM
Glanz wrote:
I have a similar setup Sao. Nothing has collapsed yet. (I almost did, but both X11's are running rather well)
Same here. I am actually quite happy with this setup. I'm running Evolution, Xemacs, Gvim, Pymol, The Gimp, Mozilla, Links, and they work fine. Will keep testing.


Cheers...