Problems Getting Quartz-WM and KDE to Work Together...

[thebassman99]

This has been driving me crazy for the last couple of days, so please help me so I can sleep again!!

I'm trying to get KDE to use the Quartz-WM. I know that it can be done, because I've seen lots of posts regarding this, and none of what they said they did seems to work for me!

This is my .xinitrc file. Is there anything wrong or missing?

# Dan's Apple X11 .xinitrc File
# Created January 25th, 2003

source /sw/bin/init.sh
esd &

# Default Launch Settings
# xterm -bg black -fg white -geometry 160x50 &
# exec quartz-wm

# KDE Launch Settings
KDEWM=quartz-wm
exec /sw/bin/startkde


I have the Apple's X11 installed with the DEV tools, and version 3.1-1 of KDE from Fink.

I tried putting the full path of quartz-wm in the KDEWM var, but that didn't work either.

I am officially out of ideas and frustrated... :mad:

Thanks for all the help!

[sao]

thebassman99,

Before installing Apple's X11, when you installed with Fink the KDE 3.1-1 packages, did you have Fink xfree86 "-threaded" packages installed?

[thebassman99]

I actually installed KDE via Fink after I installed Apple's X11. So no threaded xFree86 pagages on my computer. I only installed the place holder package from Fink.

[sao]

thebassman99,

Try by writing in your ~/.xinitrc file only:

source /sw/bin/init.sh

/sw/bin/startkde

Then double click the X11.app icon.

Also check before you start whether your display is not accidentally set to thousands of colors. If it is, set it to millions.

In rootless mode (Apple's X11 works only in rootless), you will likely want to disable desktop icons in KDE. You can do this by starting the KDE control center, expanding the "Desktop" list, click "Behavior", and uncheck the "Enable icons on desktop" checkbox.

[thebassman99]

KDE starts up the same way as it did before, using its own windowmanager and not Quartz-wm.

Oh, maybe I should have mentioned before, I tried open-x11 startekde from a Terminal window, and it started KDE with the Quartz-wm, but it had decorations on the kicker and the desktop and stuff.

[sao]

thebassman99 wrote:
KDE starts up the same way as it did before, using its own windowmanager and not Quartz-wm
Yes, and have you tried in your KDE session to kill 'kwin' and start quartz-wm? It might work.

[sao]

thebassman99,

I don't think quartz-wm is kde-compliant. I know blackbox and windowmaker are. quartz-wm doesn't fully support Gnome/KDE window manager hints.

But, for example if you want to change 'kwin' with blackbox you need to rewrite in the /sw/bin/startkde script the line that executes ksmserver to call the session manager with the option:

" --windowmanager blackbox (your_wm_name)" specified instead.

Blackbox became KDE compliant at its 0.50.2 release. Window Maker became KDE compliant at its 0.50.0 release.

If you're brave, maybe you try this with 'quartz-wm' ??