HD Replacement / Largest Drive - Page 2

Las_Vegas · 11-07-2009, 02:37 PM

That CinemaStar drive is intended for DVR (video) use and while it tends to be faster, it's more prone to data errors. DVRs are designed to ignore data errors (appear as glitches/distortions in your replay) and go on displaying the program. These drives should never be used where data integrity is important. Stick with the more expensive drive intended for computers (DeskStar).

uzapuca · 11-07-2009, 05:30 PM

thanks for explaning the difference of the two HD. Data integrity is my main concern now.

Cheers,

uzapuca · 11-10-2009, 02:36 AM

By the way, i just found a Hi-Res pretty good quality videotutorial on how to change the HD of the iMac Intel Late 2006. The video is a detailed step by step process, well lit with good close ups shots and the guys doesn´t have very much experiencie with hardware, just like me, hehe...

http://vimeo.com/6608485

the only drawback for most of you guys is the video is in Spanish. Anyhow the process is very easy to understand. The close ups and well lit make it worth watching it compared with most clips i could find in youtube. If the sound of spanish turn you off you can always put the volume down or in other case you can make get use it to its sound and be a good asset if you ever came and visit the land of the Bull fights and paellas...hehe.

Cheers,

styrafome · 11-10-2009, 03:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by clarkspring


	I have same computer and I'm doing the same thing. I bought a Seagate Barracuda...Will the motherboard or any other system interfere with the 16MB cache or the 3.0 mbps? I have no idea how to determine how much cache my old hard drive had, but it is a 1.5 mbps drive.

The one thing about Barracudas is that you need to look for the speed limiting jumper, and if it has one, take it off before you install the drive so that it goes at maximum speed. If the jumper is on, the drive runs at 1.5Mbps, with the jumper off it's a 3Mbps drive (of course, assuming your system can feed it that fast).

The last few Barracudas I saw had this jumper on them, but that was months ago.

uzapuca · 11-10-2009, 04:26 AM

Thanks for that good tip Styrafome. I will keep an eye on it.

Buy the way, i called the Apple Service and they did not recommend to put a 1 Tb. inside the iMac because of temperature issues. I might go as well for a 640 Gb HD. Anyhow I will check 1 Tb HD datasheet on heat to compare it to my current drive and see if there is really a difference or it was just a technician point of view.

trevor · 11-10-2009, 06:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by uzapuca


	Thanks for that good tip Styrafome. I will keep an eye on it. Buy the way, i called the Apple Service and they did not recommend to put a 1 Tb. inside the iMac because of temperature issues. I might go as well for a 640 Gb HD. Anyhow I will check 1 Tb HD datasheet on heat to compare it to my current drive and see if there is really a difference or it was just a technician point of view.

The person at the Apple Service who told you that is wrong. If you look at the temperature generated by a 640 GB drive and that generated by a 1 TB drive from the same manufacturer, where both drives are of the same generation, the difference will be less than trivial.

Trevor

uzapuca · 11-12-2009, 03:02 PM

Hi trevor, thanks for the good tips! Actually i did not checked the specific datasheet on temperatures of those disks. I could not find the correct data yet. Anyhow, i did read which what it seems a very good in-depth review. I am not expert on Hardware at all so i would not know for sure but this seems to be a serious check. He does review the latest

WD Caviar Black 1TB Hard Drive
http://techreport.com/articles.x/15363

which in fact does has an amazing performance but does pretty low on temperature and noise. This is a sum up in the conclusion page.

"Of course, performance leadership doesn't necessarily make the Black flawless. The drive's power consumption may be low, but its noise levels are not. I suppose there's a price to be paid for speed, but given the low noise levels of the Caviar SE16 640GB, I had hoped the Black would be quieter.

The Caviar Black is in a tricky position, then. Sure, it's the fastest 7,200-RPM drive on the market, but it's also a little pricey and probably too loud for many enthusiasts' desktop systems. The Black is better suited to workstation and server environments that will capitalize on the drive's quick access times and strong performance with workloads that include more randomized I/O request patterns. It's no surprise, then, that WD recently announced a line of enterprise-class RE3 based on the Caviar Black."

Cheers,

uzapuca · 11-20-2009, 05:51 PM

A last question, just to be sure would any HD will work with Mac OS X Leopard or Tiger? I am reading some HD reviews which say "HD prepared for Windows Vista or Boot Disk" i don't know where that info fits on Mac OSX or i should just forget it.

Just for the record and after reading a whole bunch of HD's reviews i decided to buy the SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 1TB HD103SJ model. A newer model which is the evolution of the F1 Spinpont F1 series, 7200 RPM, 32MB. A fast HD with the right mix of low noise, power consumption and cool temperature as it main features.

http://www.geek.com/articles/chips/s...rive-20090730/

by the way, thanks a lot for the much interesting info!

11-07-2009, 02:37 PM	#21
Las_Vegas League Commissioner Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 5,845	That CinemaStar drive is intended for DVR (video) use and while it tends to be faster, it's more prone to data errors. DVRs are designed to ignore data errors (appear as glitches/distortions in your replay) and go on displaying the program. These drives should never be used where data integrity is important. Stick with the more expensive drive intended for computers (DeskStar). __________________ Las_Vegas -- Ts'i mahnu uterna ot twan ot geifur hingts uto. -- Sometimes I wonder… Why is that Frisbee getting Larger? …and then it hits me. -- Disposable thumbs make me specialer than most animals…

11-07-2009, 05:30 PM	#22
uzapuca Major Leaguer Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Madrid, Spain Posts: 269	thanks for explaning the difference of the two HD. Data integrity is my main concern now. Cheers, __________________ iMac core duo 2.16Ghz: OS X 10.49,3Gb ram,250Gb internal HD

11-10-2009, 02:36 AM	#23
uzapuca Major Leaguer Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Madrid, Spain Posts: 269	By the way, i just found a Hi-Res pretty good quality videotutorial on how to change the HD of the iMac Intel Late 2006. The video is a detailed step by step process, well lit with good close ups shots and the guys doesn´t have very much experiencie with hardware, just like me, hehe... http://vimeo.com/6608485 the only drawback for most of you guys is the video is in Spanish. Anyhow the process is very easy to understand. The close ups and well lit make it worth watching it compared with most clips i could find in youtube. If the sound of spanish turn you off you can always put the volume down or in other case you can make get use it to its sound and be a good asset if you ever came and visit the land of the Bull fights and paellas...hehe. Cheers, __________________ iMac core duo 2.16Ghz: OS X 10.49,3Gb ram,250Gb internal HD Last edited by uzapuca; 11-10-2009 at 02:40 AM.

11-10-2009, 04:26 AM	#25
uzapuca Major Leaguer Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Madrid, Spain Posts: 269	Thanks for that good tip Styrafome. I will keep an eye on it. Buy the way, i called the Apple Service and they did not recommend to put a 1 Tb. inside the iMac because of temperature issues. I might go as well for a 640 Gb HD. Anyhow I will check 1 Tb HD datasheet on heat to compare it to my current drive and see if there is really a difference or it was just a technician point of view. __________________ iMac core duo 2.16Ghz: OS X 10.49,3Gb ram,250Gb internal HD

11-12-2009, 03:02 PM	#27
uzapuca Major Leaguer Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Madrid, Spain Posts: 269	Hi trevor, thanks for the good tips! Actually i did not checked the specific datasheet on temperatures of those disks. I could not find the correct data yet. Anyhow, i did read which what it seems a very good in-depth review. I am not expert on Hardware at all so i would not know for sure but this seems to be a serious check. He does review the latest WD Caviar Black 1TB Hard Drive http://techreport.com/articles.x/15363 which in fact does has an amazing performance but does pretty low on temperature and noise. This is a sum up in the conclusion page. "Of course, performance leadership doesn't necessarily make the Black flawless. The drive's power consumption may be low, but its noise levels are not. I suppose there's a price to be paid for speed, but given the low noise levels of the Caviar SE16 640GB, I had hoped the Black would be quieter. The Caviar Black is in a tricky position, then. Sure, it's the fastest 7,200-RPM drive on the market, but it's also a little pricey and probably too loud for many enthusiasts' desktop systems. The Black is better suited to workstation and server environments that will capitalize on the drive's quick access times and strong performance with workloads that include more randomized I/O request patterns. It's no surprise, then, that WD recently announced a line of enterprise-class RE3 based on the Caviar Black." Cheers, Attached Thumbnails __________________ iMac core duo 2.16Ghz: OS X 10.49,3Gb ram,250Gb internal HD Last edited by uzapuca; 11-12-2009 at 03:56 PM.

11-20-2009, 05:51 PM	#28
uzapuca Major Leaguer Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Madrid, Spain Posts: 269	A last question, just to be sure would any HD will work with Mac OS X Leopard or Tiger? I am reading some HD reviews which say "HD prepared for Windows Vista or Boot Disk" i don't know where that info fits on Mac OSX or i should just forget it. Just for the record and after reading a whole bunch of HD's reviews i decided to buy the SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 1TB HD103SJ model. A newer model which is the evolution of the F1 Spinpont F1 series, 7200 RPM, 32MB. A fast HD with the right mix of low noise, power consumption and cool temperature as it main features. http://www.geek.com/articles/chips/s...rive-20090730/ by the way, thanks a lot for the much interesting info! __________________ iMac core duo 2.16Ghz: OS X 10.49,3Gb ram,250Gb internal HD

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