Windowserver problems [Invalid tracking area]

bluehz · 03-12-2004, 12:43 PM

Does anyone have any idea why I am receiving these errors flowing continuously through the console. Never stops. I read a related post earlier and it stated to repair permissions... but that had no effect. Whats going on with this...

Mar 12 12:38:48 [182] kCGErrorIllegalArgument: CGXRemoveTrackingArea : Invalid tracking area
Mar 12 12:38:48 [182] kCGErrorIllegalArgument: CGXRemoveTrackingArea : Invalid tracking area
Mar 12 12:38:48 [182] kCGErrorIllegalArgument: CGXRemoveTrackingArea : Invalid tracking area
Mar 12 12:38:57 [182] kCGErrorIllegalArgument: CGXRemoveTrackingArea : Invalid tracking area
Mar 12 12:38:57 [182] kCGErrorIllegalArgument: CGXRemoveTrackingArea : Invalid tracking area
Mar 12 12:38:57 [182] kCGErrorIllegalArgument: CGXRemoveTrackingArea : Invalid tracking area
Mar 12 12:38:59 [182] kCGErrorIllegalArgument: CGXRemoveTrackingArea : Invalid tracking area
Mar 12 12:38:59 [182] kCGErrorIllegalArgument: CGXRemoveTrackingArea : Invalid tracking area
Mar 12 12:38:59 [182] kCGErrorIllegalArgument: CGXRemoveTrackingArea : Invalid tracking area
Mar 12 12:38:59 [182] kCGErrorIllegalArgument: CGXRemoveTrackingArea : Invalid tracking area
Mar 12 12:38:59 [182] kCGErrorIllegalArgument: CGXRemoveTrackingArea : Invalid tracking area
Mar 12 12:38:59 [182] kCGErrorIllegalArgument: CGXRemoveTrackingArea : Invalid tracking area
Mar 12 12:38:59 [182] kCGErrorIllegalArgument: CGXRemoveTrackingArea : Invalid tracking area
Mar 12 12:38:59 [182] kCGErrorIllegalArgument: CGXRemoveTrackingArea : Invalid tracking area
Mar 12 12:38:59 [182] kCGErrorIllegalArgument: CGXRemoveTrackingArea : Invalid tracking area
Mar 12 12:38:59 [182] kCGErrorIllegalArgument: CGXRemoveTrackingArea : Invalid tracking area
Mar 12 12:38:59 [182] kCGErrorIllegalArgument: CGXRemoveTrackingArea : Invalid tracking area
Mar 12 12:39:00 [182] kCGErrorIllegalArgument: CGXRemoveTrackingArea : Invalid tracking area
Mar 12 12:39:00 [182] kCGErrorIllegalArgument: CGXRemoveTrackingArea : Invalid tracking area
Mar 12 12:39:00 [182] kCGErrorIllegalArgument: CGXRemoveTrackingArea : Invalid tracking area
Mar 12 12:39:02 [182] kCGErrorIllegalArgument: CGXRemoveTrackingArea : Invalid tracking area
Mar 12 12:39:02 [182] kCGErrorIllegalArgument: CGXRemoveTrackingArea : Invalid tracking area
Mar 12 12:39:02 [182] kCGErrorIllegalArgument: CGXRemoveTrackingArea : Invalid tracking area
Mar 12 12:39:02 [182] kCGErrorIllegalArgument: CGXRemoveTrackingArea : Invalid tracking area
Mar 12 12:39:02 [182] kCGErrorIllegalArgument: CGXRemoveTrackingArea : Invalid tracking area
Mar 12 12:39:02 [182] kCGErrorIllegalArgument: CGXRemoveTrackingArea : Invalid tracking area
Mar 12 12:39:02 [182] kCGErrorIllegalArgument: CGXRemoveTrackingArea : Invalid tracking area
Mar 12 12:39:11 [182] kCGErrorIllegalArgument: CGXRemoveTrackingArea : Invalid tracking area
Mar 12 12:39:11 [182] kCGErrorIllegalArgument: CGXRemoveTrackingArea : Invalid tracking area
Mar 12 12:39:11 [182] kCGErrorIllegalArgument: CGXRemoveTrackingArea : Invalid tracking area

macmath · 03-12-2004, 01:14 PM

I've noticed the same thing. Something that also happens to me which I've not received a good answer for is a large number of WindowServer hits (60-80 per second). Do you see the same when you type:

sudo fs_usage

It only happens to me and some others here who both (a) have Panther installed and (b) eMacs. Another who has a G4 Dual-500 Mhz and Panther does not see this.

bluehz · 03-12-2004, 01:29 PM

Yes - I assume this is what you mean...

13:28:39 CACHE_HIT 0.000024 WindowServer
13:28:39 CACHE_HIT 0.000042 WindowServer
13:28:40 CACHE_HIT 0.000046 ATSServer
13:28:40 CACHE_HIT 0.000024 WindowServer
13:28:40 CACHE_HIT 0.000026 WindowServer
13:28:40 CACHE_HIT 0.000011 WindowServer
13:28:40 CACHE_HIT 0.000009 WindowServer
13:28:40 CACHE_HIT 0.000010 WindowServer
13:28:40 CACHE_HIT 0.000009 WindowServer
13:28:40 CACHE_HIT 0.000010 WindowServer
13:28:40 CACHE_HIT 0.000010 WindowServer
13:28:40 CACHE_HIT 0.000009 WindowServer
13:28:40 CACHE_HIT 0.000010 WindowServer
13:28:40 CACHE_HIT 0.000010 WindowServer
13:28:40 CACHE_HIT 0.000010 WindowServer
13:28:40 CACHE_HIT 0.000010 WindowServer
13:28:40 CACHE_HIT 0.000028 WindowServer
13:28:40 CACHE_HIT 0.000036 WindowServer
13:28:40 CACHE_HIT 0.000038 WindowServer
13:28:40 CACHE_HIT 0.000010 WindowServer
13:28:40 CACHE_HIT 0.000009 WindowServer
13:28:40 CACHE_HIT 0.000010 WindowServer
13:28:40 CACHE_HIT 0.000009 WindowServer
13:28:40 CACHE_HIT 0.000010 WindowServer
13:28:40 CACHE_HIT 0.000010 WindowServer
13:28:40 CACHE_HIT 0.000009 WindowServer
13:28:40 CACHE_HIT 0.000010 WindowServer

macmath · 03-12-2004, 02:27 PM

That's it.

What do you suppose it means, and do you think the two things are related?

bluehz · 03-12-2004, 03:12 PM

I have no idea... not sure why its running through a cache - and this may be completely off base.. but I am running wth 1.2G of RAM.. I shouldn't be having anything run through a cache... liek I said that may be completely unfounded... my stupidity.

All I know is its driving me nuts. WindowServer spiking at %25 cpu at times....

mervTormel · 03-12-2004, 03:24 PM

cache doesn't necessarily mean disk. there are memory caches too.

i would suspect some third-party deal causing those messages.

try and discover what by a safe login, then start up your login thingies singularly and monitor. of course, it could be an opaque thing like a menu extra.

macmath · 03-12-2004, 03:49 PM

Quote:


	Originally posted by mervTormel i would suspect some third-party deal causing those messages. try and discover what by a safe login, then start up your login thingies singularly and monitor. of course, it could be an opaque thing like a menu extra.

From this thread involving some of these same issues, I noted that

1) Starting in safe-mode makes this problem go away.
and
2) It is not 3rd-party related because it even happened to me after a clean install (of Panther).

macmath · 03-12-2004, 09:07 PM

I'm pretty sure that it did not happen on my eMac (at work) running Jaguar. I still had (and have) Jaguar installed on a small partition on that eMac and back then I'm pretty certain that I booted and checked fs_usage and did not find all those WindowServer cache hits. It is a minimal install of Jaguar 10.2.8, just for emergencies. So, back then, I re-installed Panther to make sure that I was rid of anything that I had added on (which wasn't much anyway). It still happened/happens that I get 70 or so WindowServer hits per second.

I pleaded several times for anyone to check fs_usage on their eMacs or machines capable of Quartz Extreme but nobody did. Finally, we got a few more copies of OS X 10.3 in the department and it was installed on another eMac and a Dual-500 MHz G4. The other eMac has the same activity as mine, but the Dual-500 MHz G4 (almost certain QE capable) does not. This does not happen on my iMac at home.

So, with these eMacs, anyway, it seems to be something with Panther (except on Safe-Mode). What model is your computer, bluehz?

[PS: I can't double-check out my Jaguar claim at the moment, because I'm still in the middle of a 2-day compiling of KDE 3.2.1 from Fink.]

[PPS: I just checked the thread above (page 3), and verified that I had posted my Jaguar results: fs_usage does not report wild WindowServer hits with 10.2.8.]

bluehz · 03-13-2004, 09:03 AM

I am running a G4/400 (AGP)

macmath · 03-13-2004, 10:15 AM

With Panther, I presume?

bluehz · 03-13-2004, 10:46 AM

Yes - Panther with latest updates (not incl latest Security Update which borked my system and cause me to have to do an archive/install about a week ago) ....

I am possibly hitting on something here... I have been testing a PrefPane called "Perpheral View" that watches for peripherals (USB/FW, etc). Since disabling it - the windowserver.log has quieted down nicely. Although I can't be sure that was teh only thing I quit/disabled.

macmath - do you keep any network volumes mounted? Just curious. I have several internal LAN volumes mounted at boot time with Samba and webdav. They remian connected 24/7. Although I don't see any correlation between them and the windowserver stuff. It was actually my first thought.

macmath · 03-13-2004, 11:08 AM

No. Nothing is mounted except on occasion for a few minutes.

I had thought it was perhaps related to some errors I always had in system.log at startup time (it seems like there is some hdwe inconsistency that the OS is not expecting). I am not with that machine right now to tell you which one I mean

SML · 04-24-2004, 08:48 PM

Hmm,

Another post on this issue with no solution

Any new hints at the solution?

I am having the same problems with a 1Ghz PB and 256Mb RAM and Panther will all updates.

macmath · 04-24-2004, 09:37 PM

I've found no solution either. I suspect (and I don't know enough to have any valid hypotheses) that this is something related to Panther and certain hardware, and might be cured in a future update or 10.4. It occurs on every eMac in our office that has Panther installed, and does not occur on 10.1.x or 10.2.x on the eMacs. It does not occur on my (lowly) Summer 2001 iMac. I'd be interested in seeing if it happens on other 1GHz PBs with Panther.

I wonder how much RAM bluehz has? The eMacs only have 384 MB, and your PB barely has enough to run at 256 MB. My iMac has 512 MB. I think you'd notice a very large performance bump if you added another 512 MB.

SML · 04-24-2004, 09:42 PM

Thanks macmath. I posted a question in the apple forum asking is someone could copy their fs_usage file. Will let you know. Let's hope it is normal.

macmath · 04-24-2004, 09:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SML


	Thanks macmath. I posted a question in the apple forum asking is someone could copy their fs_usage file. Will let you know. Let's hope it is normal.

Thanks! I'd like to know that as well.

bluehz · 04-25-2004, 12:53 AM

I have 1.2G of RAM.

Quote:

Originally Posted by macmath


	I wonder how much RAM bluehz has?

SML · 04-25-2004, 08:07 AM

I haven't been able to locate too many responses yet. If anyone can just quickly run the command:
sudo fs_usage -w

And copy and paste the output it would be great to compare.

Thanks.

macmath · 04-25-2004, 10:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SML


	I haven't been able to locate too many responses yet. If anyone can just quickly run the command: sudo fs_usage -w And copy and paste the output it would be great to compare. Thanks.

Just to remind you from the other thread that it occurred even on a fresh Panther install (no third parties installed), and it did not happen if you started up in Safe Mode.

Good luck getting responses. I don't mean to be bitter, but I *begged* for that several times on page 3 of that thread above and no one responded. It is not risky and it is not like it takes hardly any time. But then again, I might have annoyed people (with my previous posts) that you have not.

retcynnm · 04-25-2004, 11:35 AM

Code:

0.000006   WindowServer        
08:12:55.571  CACHE_HIT       A=0xb88e5000                                                                                                   0.000028   SystemUIServer      
08:12:55.571  CACHE_HIT       A=0xb88e6000                                                                                                   0.000060   SystemUIServer      
08:12:55.575  CACHE_HIT       A=0x006a6000                                                                                                   0.000076   WindowServer        
08:12:55.576  CACHE_HIT       A=0x1c130000                                                                                                   0.000016   WindowServer        
08:12:55.617  CACHE_HIT       A=0x0102c000                                                                                                   0.000119   WindowServer        
08:12:55.617  CACHE_HIT       A=0x0102d000                                                                                                   0.000013   WindowServer        
08:12:55.617  CACHE_HIT       A=0x01031000                                                                                                   0.000015   WindowServer        
08:12:55.618  CACHE_HIT       A=0x01094000                                                                                                   0.000038   WindowServer        
08:12:55.618  CACHE_HIT       A=0x010d6000                                                                                                   0.000022   WindowServer        
08:12:55.618  CACHE_HIT       A=0x0130a000                                                                                                   0.000052   WindowServer        
08:12:55.619  CACHE_HIT       A=0x1c130000                                                                                                   0.000021   WindowServer        
08:12:55.619  CACHE_HIT       A=0x1c130000                                                                                                   0.000009   WindowServer        
08:12:55.619  CACHE_HIT       A=0x1c130000                                                                                                   0.000007   WindowServer        
08:12:55.619  CACHE_HIT       A=0x1c130000                                                                                                   0.000007   WindowServer        
08:12:55.619  CACHE_HIT       A=0x1c130000                                                                                                   0.000007   WindowServer        
08:12:55.619  CACHE_HIT       A=0x1c130000                                                                                                   0.000007   WindowServer        
08:12:55.653  CACHE_HIT       A=0x0102c000                                                                                                   0.000120   WindowServer        
08:12:55.654  CACHE_HIT       A=0x0102d000                                                                                                   0.000014   WindowServer        
08:12:55.654  CACHE_HIT       A=0x01031000                                                                                                   0.000016   WindowServer        
08:12:55.654  CACHE_HIT       A=0x01094000                                                                                                   0.000039   WindowServer        
08:12:55.654  CACHE_HIT       A=0x010d6000                                                                                                   0.000023   WindowServer        
08:12:55.655  CACHE_HIT       A=0x0130a000                                                                                                   0.000053   WindowServer        
08:12:55.655  CACHE_HIT       A=0x1c130000                                                                                                   0.000018   WindowServer        
08:12:55.655  CACHE_HIT       A=0x1c130000                                                                                                   0.000008   WindowServer        
08:12:55.655  CACHE_HIT       A=0x1c130000                                                                                                   0.000007   WindowServer        
^CV-ger:~ lucille$

This is off of my AlPB 1Ghz with a clean install of 10.3. I get the same thing off of my 800MHz Quicksilver tower, also with a clean install of 10.3.

03-12-2004, 12:43 PM	#1
bluehz MVP Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 1,532	Windowserver problems [Invalid tracking area] Does anyone have any idea why I am receiving these errors flowing continuously through the console. Never stops. I read a related post earlier and it stated to repair permissions... but that had no effect. Whats going on with this... Mar 12 12:38:48 [182] kCGErrorIllegalArgument: CGXRemoveTrackingArea : Invalid tracking area Mar 12 12:38:48 [182] kCGErrorIllegalArgument: CGXRemoveTrackingArea : Invalid tracking area Mar 12 12:38:48 [182] kCGErrorIllegalArgument: CGXRemoveTrackingArea : Invalid tracking area Mar 12 12:38:57 [182] kCGErrorIllegalArgument: CGXRemoveTrackingArea : Invalid tracking area Mar 12 12:38:57 [182] kCGErrorIllegalArgument: CGXRemoveTrackingArea : Invalid tracking area Mar 12 12:38:57 [182] kCGErrorIllegalArgument: CGXRemoveTrackingArea : Invalid tracking area Mar 12 12:38:59 [182] kCGErrorIllegalArgument: CGXRemoveTrackingArea : Invalid tracking area Mar 12 12:38:59 [182] kCGErrorIllegalArgument: CGXRemoveTrackingArea : Invalid tracking area Mar 12 12:38:59 [182] kCGErrorIllegalArgument: CGXRemoveTrackingArea : Invalid tracking area Mar 12 12:38:59 [182] kCGErrorIllegalArgument: CGXRemoveTrackingArea : Invalid tracking area Mar 12 12:38:59 [182] kCGErrorIllegalArgument: CGXRemoveTrackingArea : Invalid tracking area Mar 12 12:38:59 [182] kCGErrorIllegalArgument: CGXRemoveTrackingArea : Invalid tracking area Mar 12 12:38:59 [182] kCGErrorIllegalArgument: CGXRemoveTrackingArea : Invalid tracking area Mar 12 12:38:59 [182] kCGErrorIllegalArgument: CGXRemoveTrackingArea : Invalid tracking area Mar 12 12:38:59 [182] kCGErrorIllegalArgument: CGXRemoveTrackingArea : Invalid tracking area Mar 12 12:38:59 [182] kCGErrorIllegalArgument: CGXRemoveTrackingArea : Invalid tracking area Mar 12 12:38:59 [182] kCGErrorIllegalArgument: CGXRemoveTrackingArea : Invalid tracking area Mar 12 12:39:00 [182] kCGErrorIllegalArgument: CGXRemoveTrackingArea : Invalid tracking area Mar 12 12:39:00 [182] kCGErrorIllegalArgument: CGXRemoveTrackingArea : Invalid tracking area Mar 12 12:39:00 [182] kCGErrorIllegalArgument: CGXRemoveTrackingArea : Invalid tracking area Mar 12 12:39:02 [182] kCGErrorIllegalArgument: CGXRemoveTrackingArea : Invalid tracking area Mar 12 12:39:02 [182] kCGErrorIllegalArgument: CGXRemoveTrackingArea : Invalid tracking area Mar 12 12:39:02 [182] kCGErrorIllegalArgument: CGXRemoveTrackingArea : Invalid tracking area Mar 12 12:39:02 [182] kCGErrorIllegalArgument: CGXRemoveTrackingArea : Invalid tracking area Mar 12 12:39:02 [182] kCGErrorIllegalArgument: CGXRemoveTrackingArea : Invalid tracking area Mar 12 12:39:02 [182] kCGErrorIllegalArgument: CGXRemoveTrackingArea : Invalid tracking area Mar 12 12:39:02 [182] kCGErrorIllegalArgument: CGXRemoveTrackingArea : Invalid tracking area Mar 12 12:39:11 [182] kCGErrorIllegalArgument: CGXRemoveTrackingArea : Invalid tracking area Mar 12 12:39:11 [182] kCGErrorIllegalArgument: CGXRemoveTrackingArea : Invalid tracking area Mar 12 12:39:11 [182] kCGErrorIllegalArgument: CGXRemoveTrackingArea : Invalid tracking area

03-12-2004, 09:07 PM	#8
macmath MVP Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Elsewhere Posts: 1,476	I'm pretty sure that it did not happen on my eMac (at work) running Jaguar. I still had (and have) Jaguar installed on a small partition on that eMac and back then I'm pretty certain that I booted and checked fs_usage and did not find all those WindowServer cache hits. It is a minimal install of Jaguar 10.2.8, just for emergencies. So, back then, I re-installed Panther to make sure that I was rid of anything that I had added on (which wasn't much anyway). It still happened/happens that I get 70 or so WindowServer hits per second. I pleaded several times for anyone to check fs_usage on their eMacs or machines capable of Quartz Extreme but nobody did. Finally, we got a few more copies of OS X 10.3 in the department and it was installed on another eMac and a Dual-500 MHz G4. The other eMac has the same activity as mine, but the Dual-500 MHz G4 (almost certain QE capable) does not. This does not happen on my iMac at home. So, with these eMacs, anyway, it seems to be something with Panther (except on Safe-Mode). What model is your computer, bluehz? [PS: I can't double-check out my Jaguar claim at the moment, because I'm still in the middle of a 2-day compiling of KDE 3.2.1 from Fink.] [PPS: I just checked the thread above (page 3), and verified that I had posted my Jaguar results: fs_usage does not report wild WindowServer hits with 10.2.8.] Last edited by macmath; 03-12-2004 at 09:11 PM.

04-24-2004, 09:37 PM	#14
macmath MVP Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Elsewhere Posts: 1,476	I've found no solution either. I suspect (and I don't know enough to have any valid hypotheses) that this is something related to Panther and certain hardware, and might be cured in a future update or 10.4. It occurs on every eMac in our office that has Panther installed, and does not occur on 10.1.x or 10.2.x on the eMacs. It does not occur on my (lowly) Summer 2001 iMac. I'd be interested in seeing if it happens on other 1GHz PBs with Panther. I wonder how much RAM bluehz has? The eMacs only have 384 MB, and your PB barely has enough to run at 256 MB. My iMac has 512 MB. I think you'd notice a very large performance bump if you added another 512 MB. Last edited by macmath; 04-24-2004 at 09:41 PM.

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03-12-2004, 01:14 PM	#2
macmath MVP Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Elsewhere Posts: 1,476	I've noticed the same thing. Something that also happens to me which I've not received a good answer for is a large number of WindowServer hits (60-80 per second). Do you see the same when you type: sudo fs_usage It only happens to me and some others here who both (a) have Panther installed and (b) eMacs. Another who has a G4 Dual-500 Mhz and Panther does not see this.

03-12-2004, 01:29 PM	#3
bluehz MVP Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 1,532	Yes - I assume this is what you mean... 13:28:39 CACHE_HIT 0.000024 WindowServer 13:28:39 CACHE_HIT 0.000042 WindowServer 13:28:40 CACHE_HIT 0.000046 ATSServer 13:28:40 CACHE_HIT 0.000024 WindowServer 13:28:40 CACHE_HIT 0.000026 WindowServer 13:28:40 CACHE_HIT 0.000011 WindowServer 13:28:40 CACHE_HIT 0.000009 WindowServer 13:28:40 CACHE_HIT 0.000010 WindowServer 13:28:40 CACHE_HIT 0.000009 WindowServer 13:28:40 CACHE_HIT 0.000010 WindowServer 13:28:40 CACHE_HIT 0.000010 WindowServer 13:28:40 CACHE_HIT 0.000009 WindowServer 13:28:40 CACHE_HIT 0.000010 WindowServer 13:28:40 CACHE_HIT 0.000010 WindowServer 13:28:40 CACHE_HIT 0.000010 WindowServer 13:28:40 CACHE_HIT 0.000010 WindowServer 13:28:40 CACHE_HIT 0.000028 WindowServer 13:28:40 CACHE_HIT 0.000036 WindowServer 13:28:40 CACHE_HIT 0.000038 WindowServer 13:28:40 CACHE_HIT 0.000010 WindowServer 13:28:40 CACHE_HIT 0.000009 WindowServer 13:28:40 CACHE_HIT 0.000010 WindowServer 13:28:40 CACHE_HIT 0.000009 WindowServer 13:28:40 CACHE_HIT 0.000010 WindowServer 13:28:40 CACHE_HIT 0.000010 WindowServer 13:28:40 CACHE_HIT 0.000009 WindowServer 13:28:40 CACHE_HIT 0.000010 WindowServer

03-12-2004, 02:27 PM	#4
macmath MVP Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Elsewhere Posts: 1,476	That's it. What do you suppose it means, and do you think the two things are related?

03-12-2004, 03:12 PM	#5
bluehz MVP Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 1,532	I have no idea... not sure why its running through a cache - and this may be completely off base.. but I am running wth 1.2G of RAM.. I shouldn't be having anything run through a cache... liek I said that may be completely unfounded... my stupidity. All I know is its driving me nuts. WindowServer spiking at %25 cpu at times....

03-12-2004, 03:24 PM	#6
mervTormel League Commissioner Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 5,536	cache doesn't necessarily mean disk. there are memory caches too. i would suspect some third-party deal causing those messages. try and discover what by a safe login, then start up your login thingies singularly and monitor. of course, it could be an opaque thing like a menu extra.

03-13-2004, 09:03 AM	#9
bluehz MVP Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 1,532	I am running a G4/400 (AGP)

03-13-2004, 10:15 AM	#10
macmath MVP Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Elsewhere Posts: 1,476	With Panther, I presume?

03-13-2004, 10:46 AM	#11
bluehz MVP Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 1,532	Yes - Panther with latest updates (not incl latest Security Update which borked my system and cause me to have to do an archive/install about a week ago) .... I am possibly hitting on something here... I have been testing a PrefPane called "Perpheral View" that watches for peripherals (USB/FW, etc). Since disabling it - the windowserver.log has quieted down nicely. Although I can't be sure that was teh only thing I quit/disabled. macmath - do you keep any network volumes mounted? Just curious. I have several internal LAN volumes mounted at boot time with Samba and webdav. They remian connected 24/7. Although I don't see any correlation between them and the windowserver stuff. It was actually my first thought.

03-13-2004, 11:08 AM	#12
macmath MVP Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Elsewhere Posts: 1,476	No. Nothing is mounted except on occasion for a few minutes. I had thought it was perhaps related to some errors I always had in system.log at startup time (it seems like there is some hdwe inconsistency that the OS is not expecting). I am not with that machine right now to tell you which one I mean

04-24-2004, 08:48 PM	#13
SML Prospect Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 10	Hmm, Another post on this issue with no solution Any new hints at the solution? I am having the same problems with a 1Ghz PB and 256Mb RAM and Panther will all updates.

04-24-2004, 09:42 PM	#15
SML Prospect Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 10	Thanks macmath. I posted a question in the apple forum asking is someone could copy their fs_usage file. Will let you know. Let's hope it is normal.

04-25-2004, 08:07 AM	#18
SML Prospect Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 10	I haven't been able to locate too many responses yet. If anyone can just quickly run the command: sudo fs_usage -w And copy and paste the output it would be great to compare. Thanks.