Constant app crashes > KERN_INVALID_ADDRESS

bluehz · 06-17-2002, 11:51 PM

Starting about 2 days ago a large majority of my applications are crashing. Not always the same one, and sometimes they don't "Unexepectedly Quit" until you actually QUIT them anyway. Perusing the crash logs - every one of them has this as the crash msg:

Exception: EXC_BAD_ACCESS (0x0001)
Codes: KERN_INVALID_ADDRESS (0x0001) at 0x2d480000

This is getting to be a major problem! I posted on the Apple boards and no one has responded. Saw other posts regarding this issue - but no one has a solution and the closest thing to a suggestion for a fix is to clear out the font cache - which I did. I have also run a complete Disk Warrior on the drive and it is still occuring.

Can anyone offer any suggestion of any kind what might be causing this issue? This is the first real problem I have had with OS X in a year, and it really stink - very OS 9 deja vu!

Mac G4/400 (AGP)
1.2G RAM
OS X 10.1.5

bassi · 06-18-2002, 04:22 AM

Apps like Omniweb, Mozilla and Carracho have also crashed with the similar log you've displayed, I've searched around for the last two weeks and found no answer. Good luck!

vonleigh · 06-18-2002, 06:22 AM

Hello,

I don't know what a KERN_INVALID_ADDRESS is, but from what I gathered on the web, it shows up when a memory address is invalid.

So one posibility is that you have bad ram if it happens continually. Do you have techtool or some utility that tests ram? (I'm assuming techtool tests ram).

Do you have another partition with OS X that you can boot from? That would rule out software. I keep a small 5GB vanilla partition just in case; if I need anything stock I can just copy it over.

Vonleigh

bluehz · 06-18-2002, 09:34 AM

Everyone is suggesting RAM...I have not installed or moved any RAM on over a year and this week is the first sign of a problem. I doubt RAM would "go bad" but I may be wrong.

Bassi - have you installed any new RAM recently or moved RAM, etc?

theRegent · 06-20-2002, 03:03 PM

You're right, it's not very likely for RAM to just turn sour, but even if you haven't moved the machine, it's certainly not impossible for it to become unseated. Temperature changes, air pressure shifts, etc. etc. etc. (The realm of the unexplainable is infinite.)

Anyhoo, you might just save yourself some sanity by unplugging and opening up your box, grounding off any static electricity, and removing and reinserting your memory card(s).

It's not the most likely culprit by a long shot, but it is one that might not show up to any software tool, even one designed to check memory.

bassi · 06-21-2002, 01:33 PM

it's the info.plist for the apps.

I trashed them for the problem apps and the problem dissolved away. I think it's only advisable if you think it's safe, although I was fed up and just did it. Maverick? Me?

"I'd ride you're tail anytime"

bluehz · 06-21-2002, 03:45 PM

Which info plist? Are you saying to delete every info plist for evry app thats crashing? Thats a lot of plist's!

Quote:


	it's the info.plist for the apps.

bluehz · 06-21-2002, 03:55 PM

Are you guys that are experiencing these same symptoms running anything modifying the keyboard?

Just curious as I remember reading about PowerDelete casuing problems related to keyboards. I don't use PowerDelete, but I am using TypeIt4Me - which also messes with the keyboard.

Wondering if this is a common thread we could track?

bassi · 06-21-2002, 05:30 PM

I had three apps causing my major problems, so I just deleted three.

bluehz · 06-21-2002, 05:35 PM

Wish I could narrow it down to three apps. There is no noticeable pattern on my machine. Not always the same apps...

logo · 06-24-2002, 01:17 PM

Well I'm using Key Xing and LiteSwitch!

Same problem occuring, yet not that frequently...

Peter

Cobalt · 06-25-2002, 05:22 PM

Just to chime in, I've been having similar problems over the last week or so. I've mostly noticed it Illustrator 10. Today it happened repeatedly in Eudora 5.1.1, and since I haven't been using AI 10 too much lately, I at first thought it was a Eudora bug, but now I'm having second thoughts.

Most of my crash logs have a line like this:

Code:

Exception:  EXC_BAD_ACCESS (0x0001)
Codes:      KERN_PROTECTION_FAILURE (0x0002) at 0x00000015

For Eudora, the KERN thing was almost always "at 0x00000000" which seems like an odd place -- it's not in the middle of the memory, it's right at the very beginning (isn't it?).

For AI 10, the crashes happen after at least 15 minutes of use, sometimes a half hour or more of (straight) use (but if I leave AI in the background all day long, that doesn't affect it).

Does anyone have any ideas about what might be causing this? It just started happening within the last week or so, at about the same time I upgraded to 10.1.5.

(Actually, I just went through the crash log, and every entry has been for OS version 10.1.5.) I may try deleting the info.plist files for the affected apps, but I'd rather not, especially since it seems to be related to 10.1.5....

bluehz · 06-28-2002, 04:29 PM

I am REALLY started to get ticked off on this issue. Listen to us - talking about extensions, etc.......sounds just like pre-OS X days.

Cobalt · 06-28-2002, 05:07 PM

Yeah, so much crashing is pretty annoying.

I've been getting paranoid about saving stuff every 2 minutes when using Illustrator. Oddly, that seems to keep the crashes away. I guess it sort of makes sense, since the error messages seem to indicate a problem at a memory location; maybe whatever is causing the crash only happens when some between-saves-buffer gets too full... (or maybe I'm blowing smoke out my rear orifice, given how much I actually know about these things).

Does anyone have any clue as to whether there's going to be a 10.1.6 or some such "fix" to these problems coming out, or will Apple just come out with Jaguar (ie. 10.2 or 10.5, whatever they call it)?

Cobalt

logo · 07-02-2002, 04:17 AM

Hi!

Not to keep people away from this thread

, but yet as a cross reference:
Apple Discussions: Applications Unexpectedly Quitting

and

Apple Discussions: makequeues bug in 10.1.5 ???

HTH

Peter

jbmelby · 07-05-2002, 11:10 AM

My crashes are occurring in Toast Titanium 5.1.4. Version 5.1.3 works with no problem. Here's my crash log:

Date/Time: 2002-07-05 08:03:20 -0500
OS Version: 10.1.5 (Build 5S66)
Host: localhost

Command: Toast Titanium
PID: 633

Exception: EXC_BAD_ACCESS (0x0001)
Codes: KERN_INVALID_ADDRESS (0x0001) at 0xc1f5ede8

Thread 0 Crashed:
#0 0x706bab78 in objc_msgSend
#1 0x70162ed4 in CFRelease
#2 0x006e44ac in 0x6e44ac
#3 0x006e4548 in 0x6e4548
#4 0x006e185c in 0x6e185c
#5 0x00671b84 in 0x671b84
#6 0x00671be8 in 0x671be8
#7 0x0066cef8 in 0x66cef8
#8 0x005d99d0 in 0x5d99d0
#9 0x006091f0 in 0x6091f0

Thread 1:
#0 0x70000978 in mach_msg_overwrite_trap
#1 0x70005a04 in mach_msg
#2 0x70026a2c in _pthread_become_available
#3 0x70026724 in pthread_exit
#4 0x70020550 in _pthread_body
#5 0x9421ffa0 in 0x9421ffa0

Thread 2:
#0 0x7003f4c8 in semaphore_wait_signal_trap
#1 0x7003f2c8 in _pthread_cond_wait
#2 0x006cc14c in 0x6cc14c
#3 0x006c6328 in 0x6c6328
#4 0x006c5c24 in 0x6c5c24
#5 0x006c5524 in 0x6c5524
#6 0x006c8cfc in 0x6c8cfc
#7 0x006c6c00 in 0x6c6c00
#8 0x006c6ab8 in 0x6c6ab8
#9 0x006c712c in 0x6c712c
#10 0x006c95dc in 0x6c95dc
#11 0x006c5fc4 in 0x6c5fc4
#12 0x7002054c in _pthread_body

Thread 3:
#0 0x70000978 in mach_msg_overwrite_trap
#1 0x70005a04 in mach_msg
#2 0x7017bf84 in __CFRunLoopRun
#3 0x701b70ec in CFRunLoopRunSpecific
#4 0x7017b8cc in CFRunLoopRunInMode
#5 0x7061be08 in XIOAudioDeviceManager::NotificationThread(XIOAudioDeviceManager *)
#6 0x706141c0 in CAPThread::Entry(CAPThread *)
#7 0x7002054c in _pthread_body

Thread 4:
#0 0x70000978 in mach_msg_overwrite_trap
#1 0x70005a04 in mach_msg
#2 0x7017bf84 in __CFRunLoopRun
#3 0x701b70ec in CFRunLoopRunSpecific
#4 0x7017b878 in CFRunLoopRun
#5 0x02937760 in -[MyCameraCentral wiringThread:]
#6 0x70842358 in forkThreadForFunction
#7 0x7002054c in _pthread_body

PPC Thread State:
srr0: 0x706bab78 srr1: 0x0200d030 vrsave: 0x00000000
xer: 0x00000018 lr: 0x70162ed4 ctr: 0x706bab4c mq: 0x00000000
r0: 0xc1b46ce0 r1: 0xbffff150 r2: 0x7018e3f8 r3: 0x0280c4a0
r4: 0x706d1b38 r5: 0x00000024 r6: 0x0000002c r7: 0x00000e03
r8: 0x80162e24 r9: 0x00418108 r10: 0x0000357b r11: 0xffffffff
r12: 0x706d1b38 r13: 0x00000000 r14: 0x00000000 r15: 0x00000000
r16: 0x00000001 r17: 0x00000007 r18: 0x008d4e90 r19: 0x008db380
r20: 0x008db2c0 r21: 0x008d4bc0 r22: 0x008b2350 r23: 0x008af6bc
r24: 0x008af6c0 r25: 0x028095a0 r26: 0x00000000 r27: 0x00000000
r28: 0x706bab4c r29: 0x0280c4a0 r30: 0x801608b4 r31: 0x70162e24

**********

Any ideas?

bluehz · 07-05-2002, 03:51 PM

I can pretty much guarantee after I wake my machine - a dialog will be onscreen "Application XXX has unexpectdly quit" Not always the same one - seems completely random.

Maximac · 07-29-2002, 12:58 PM

Could I wake-up this thread ?
Herafter My situation :
1°) ORIGINAL FACTS
June 14th : Migrate to 10.1.5 and Install Office X and update coming with it;
Immediately quits of EXCEL and ENTOURAGE.
Nothing apparently with Word and Powerpoint ( no programing yet)
In the mean time Impossibility to quit EXCEL or POWERPOINT....infinite beachball loop ..obliged to force quitting...with also
Explorer quits (never before), finder hangup and all computer failed(One impossibility of shutdown) plus a lot of query on severs domains with failure......(fsck -y at resart OK!)

2°) Install "Consol log" auto
Note an exception as following just after every startup :
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
2002-07-28 09:03:28.459 SystemUIServer[364] NSRulebook: Exception raised while retrieving a rulebook (FontSpecific^*^LucidaGrande-Bold)
2002-07-28 09:03:46.179 SystemUIServer[364] Thread 0x800013b8: tossing reply message sequence 10
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Desinstall 2/3 times OFFICE X with deinstaller without putting the font Office reserv, each time with new prefs.
always quiting.

Going to Apple and MS forums confirm Font issue but Old ? sometimes link to 0SX 10.1.5 ?

Put all the fonts folder of my OS 9 partition on the desk
Reinstall the original set of fonts in root/system and root/library/font; remove user/library/font

3°) In first time seems to work,during a few days, but after 3 weeks now, the quits of EXCEL and EXPLORER are continuing BUT AT A MUCH LOWER FREQUENCY !! 2-3/week instead 2-3/day.....
The message on LUCIDA GRANDE is still in Console Log and always a reference to Rulebookserver as foll' before crashing....Font issue again
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
2002-07-23 09:49:09.713 loginwindow[311] Can't connect to pbs object "RulebookServer"
2002-07-23 09:49:09.714 loginwindow[311] Can't connect to pbs object "RulebookServer"
Jul 23 09:49:09 localhost /usr/libexec/CrashReporter: Succeeded writing crash report: /Users/alainqua/Library/Logs/Microsoft Excel.crash.log
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Crash office notifications at startup

DOCK: CFMessagePortSendRequest returned -4
DOCK: CFMessagePortSendRequest returned -4
DOCK: CFMessagePortSendRequest returned -4
DOCK: CFMessagePortSendRequest returned -4
DOCK: CFMessagePortSendRequest returned -4
2002-06-19 15:05:46.162 loginwindow[307] Can't connect to pbs object "RulebookServer"
2002-06-19 15:05:46.163 loginwindow[307] Can't connect to pbs object "RulebookServer"
Jun 19 15:05:46 localhost /usr/libexec/CrashReporter: Succeeded writing crash report: /Users/alainqua/Library/Logs/Microsoft Office Notifications.crash.log
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------

4°) STRANGELY THE INFINITE BEACHBALL LOOP of memory default management is still there 80% time on EXCEL and Powerpoint (never on WORD and Entourage) sometimes on IE 5.1
WORD ALWAYS QUIT CORRECTLY
When I want to quit EXCEL and if I got the infinite loop Consol log says....
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Jul 8 21:09:30 localhost WindowServer[2961]: CGSOrderWindow: Invalid other window
Jul 8 21:11:00 localhost /Applications/Microsoft Office X/Microsoft Excel: objc: cannot unmap an image containing ObjC data
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
without macro in Excel and even if I try to create a new EXCEL X document COPYING THE DATA OF OLDER OFFICE EXCEL 2001 file
or a new Excel X file
I have again new trouble with printing (solved with 10.1.4 and new HP drivers) !! especially under Explorer !!

Any comments or help to solve totally unexpected quits and infinite loops wille be highly appreciated !! The 2 pbs seems linked
Is it possible to remove Lucide Grande Font (used by System !?) or how to replace in root/system/Library/fonts with original CD ?
Thanks in advance

gkkk4 · 07-31-2002, 01:58 PM

Here's a me-too reply - same issues, and btw, thanks to those who showed how to turn on Console crash logging. No one else has mentioned Dreamweaver MX as one of the crashers, which it is for me; also Eudora 5.1.1, IE 5.2.1, Netscape 6.2.3... can't remember the others, but there have been more.

Here's a twist - beginning a few days ago, the computer (G4 dual processor, 500Mhz, 712 MB RAM, 40 GB hd) started making random noises, at least, a specific random noise, that sounds like a groan (sort of) and is NOT an alert sound I've chosen (I only have the default sounds installed, no custom ones). This noise doesn't seem to be trying to call my attention to anything, no apps giving messages, and it's not at the same time as or before a crash. I've run Virex 7 and no viruses/trojans/etc are found. Related?? Maybe, maybe not... but I kid you not!

Hope someone comes up with an answer.
Thanks,
Gurukarm

gkkk4 · 07-31-2002, 03:49 PM

Crash log as follows:

Date/Time: 2002-07-31 15:40:10 -0400
OS Version: 10.1.5 (Build 5S60b)

Command: Dreamweaver MX
PID: 509

Exception: EXC_BAD_INSTRUCTION (0x0002)
Code[0]: 0x00000002
Code[1]: 0x73146994

Thread 0:
#0 0x73146994 in GetCurrentWindowContext__Fv
#1 0x731b87b0 in GetWindowFromPlatformWindow
#2 0x731ae020 in FindPlatformWindow
#3 0x731cac04 in FindWindowCommon__FG5PointPP15OpaqueWindowPtrPs
#4 0x731becac in FindWindowOfClass
#5 0x731dacf8 in FindWindow
#6 0x00d6cef8 in 0xd6cef8
#7 0x00d6d0b8 in 0xd6d0b8
#8 0x00d6c020 in 0xd6c020
#9 0x00d6beec in 0xd6beec
#10 0x00d6be24 in 0xd6be24
#11 0x00d6f924 in 0xd6f924
#12 0x00d6f750 in 0xd6f750

Thread 1:
#0 0x70000978 in mach_msg_overwrite_trap
#1 0x70005a04 in mach_msg
#2 0x70026a2c in _pthread_become_available
#3 0x70026724 in pthread_exit
#4 0x70020550 in _pthread_body
#5 0x90010008 in 0x90010008

Thread 2:
#0 0x70000978 in mach_msg_overwrite_trap
#1 0x7024a0e8 in SwitchContexts
#2 0x702c9eec in YieldToThread
#3 0x70244b48 in SetThreadState
#4 0x702bbbe4 in SetThreadStateEndCritical
#5 0x00d2dc28 in 0xd2dc28
#6 0x00d2c8e4 in 0xd2c8e4
#7 0x00d2c7e0 in 0xd2c7e0
#8 0x00d2cbcc in 0xd2cbcc
#9 0x00d2df64 in 0xd2df64
#10 0x7027ae50 in CooperativeThread
#11 0x7002054c in _pthread_body

Thread 3:
#0 0x7000497c in syscall
#1 0x70557600 in BSD_waitevent
#2 0x70554b80 in CarbonSelectThreadFunc
#3 0x7002054c in _pthread_body

Thread 4:
#0 0x7003f4c8 in semaphore_wait_signal_trap
#1 0x7003f2c8 in _pthread_cond_wait
#2 0x705593ec in CarbonOperationThreadFunc
#3 0x7002054c in _pthread_body

PPC Thread State:
srr0: 0x73146994 srr1: 0x0008f030 vrsave: 0x00000000
xer: 0x00000014 lr: 0x731b87b0 ctr: 0x70000970 mq: 0x00000000
r0: 0x731ae020 r1: 0xbffff230 r2: 0x731dd734 r3: 0x00000008
r4: 0x00000003 r5: 0x00000034 r6: 0x0000003c r7: 0x00000e03
r8: 0x43300000 r9: 0x800000f7 r10: 0x00000008 r11: 0x77355310
r12: 0x70000970 r13: 0x00000000 r14: 0x00000013 r15: 0xbfffee58
r16: 0x000853d0 r17: 0x00000001 r18: 0x00607958 r19: 0x00002c03
r20: 0x00000000 r21: 0x0000001c r22: 0x70004234 r23: 0x700042c8
r24: 0x00000004 r25: 0x000006eb r26: 0x8081ab5c r27: 0x0005a730
r28: 0x00000000 r29: 0xbfffef00 r30: 0x8081d1cc r31: 0x00000001

**********

which is probably WAY more information than anyone's interested in... BUT, one thing that's interesting is that the Exception is EXC_BAD_INSTRUCTION(0x0002)
and the Codes are
Code[0]: 0x00000002
Code[1]: 0x73146994

rather than kernal information as others have posted. I know nothing about Unix; does this make sense to anyone? What does it mean?

Thanks,
Gurukarm

07-02-2002, 04:17 AM	#15
logo Prospect Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 48	Hi! Not to keep people away from this thread , but yet as a cross reference: Apple Discussions: Applications Unexpectedly Quitting and Apple Discussions: makequeues bug in 10.1.5 ??? HTH Peter Last edited by logo; 07-02-2002 at 04:23 AM.

07-29-2002, 12:58 PM	#18
Maximac Prospect Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: France Posts: 1	Could I wake-up this thread ? Herafter My situation : 1°) ORIGINAL FACTS June 14th : Migrate to 10.1.5 and Install Office X and update coming with it; Immediately quits of EXCEL and ENTOURAGE. Nothing apparently with Word and Powerpoint ( no programing yet) In the mean time Impossibility to quit EXCEL or POWERPOINT....infinite beachball loop ..obliged to force quitting...with also Explorer quits (never before), finder hangup and all computer failed(One impossibility of shutdown) plus a lot of query on severs domains with failure......(fsck -y at resart OK!) 2°) Install "Consol log" auto Note an exception as following just after every startup : ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2002-07-28 09:03:28.459 SystemUIServer[364] NSRulebook: Exception raised while retrieving a rulebook (FontSpecific^*^LucidaGrande-Bold) 2002-07-28 09:03:46.179 SystemUIServer[364] Thread 0x800013b8: tossing reply message sequence 10 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Desinstall 2/3 times OFFICE X with deinstaller without putting the font Office reserv, each time with new prefs. always quiting. Going to Apple and MS forums confirm Font issue but Old ? sometimes link to 0SX 10.1.5 ? Put all the fonts folder of my OS 9 partition on the desk Reinstall the original set of fonts in root/system and root/library/font; remove user/library/font 3°) In first time seems to work,during a few days, but after 3 weeks now, the quits of EXCEL and EXPLORER are continuing BUT AT A MUCH LOWER FREQUENCY !! 2-3/week instead 2-3/day..... The message on LUCIDA GRANDE is still in Console Log and always a reference to Rulebookserver as foll' before crashing....Font issue again ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2002-07-23 09:49:09.713 loginwindow[311] Can't connect to pbs object "RulebookServer" 2002-07-23 09:49:09.714 loginwindow[311] Can't connect to pbs object "RulebookServer" Jul 23 09:49:09 localhost /usr/libexec/CrashReporter: Succeeded writing crash report: /Users/alainqua/Library/Logs/Microsoft Excel.crash.log ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Crash office notifications at startup DOCK: CFMessagePortSendRequest returned -4 DOCK: CFMessagePortSendRequest returned -4 DOCK: CFMessagePortSendRequest returned -4 DOCK: CFMessagePortSendRequest returned -4 DOCK: CFMessagePortSendRequest returned -4 2002-06-19 15:05:46.162 loginwindow[307] Can't connect to pbs object "RulebookServer" 2002-06-19 15:05:46.163 loginwindow[307] Can't connect to pbs object "RulebookServer" Jun 19 15:05:46 localhost /usr/libexec/CrashReporter: Succeeded writing crash report: /Users/alainqua/Library/Logs/Microsoft Office Notifications.crash.log ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 4°) STRANGELY THE INFINITE BEACHBALL LOOP of memory default management is still there 80% time on EXCEL and Powerpoint (never on WORD and Entourage) sometimes on IE 5.1 WORD ALWAYS QUIT CORRECTLY When I want to quit EXCEL and if I got the infinite loop Consol log says.... ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Jul 8 21:09:30 localhost WindowServer[2961]: CGSOrderWindow: Invalid other window Jul 8 21:11:00 localhost /Applications/Microsoft Office X/Microsoft Excel: objc: cannot unmap an image containing ObjC data ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- without macro in Excel and even if I try to create a new EXCEL X document COPYING THE DATA OF OLDER OFFICE EXCEL 2001 file or a new Excel X file I have again new trouble with printing (solved with 10.1.4 and new HP drivers) !! especially under Explorer !! Any comments or help to solve totally unexpected quits and infinite loops wille be highly appreciated !! The 2 pbs seems linked Is it possible to remove Lucide Grande Font (used by System !?) or how to replace in root/system/Library/fonts with original CD ? Thanks in advance __________________ Try to think ahead but is Apple doing so ?

07-31-2002, 01:58 PM	#19
gkkk4 Prospect Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Massachusetts, USA Posts: 8	re Constant app crashes Here's a me-too reply - same issues, and btw, thanks to those who showed how to turn on Console crash logging. No one else has mentioned Dreamweaver MX as one of the crashers, which it is for me; also Eudora 5.1.1, IE 5.2.1, Netscape 6.2.3... can't remember the others, but there have been more. Here's a twist - beginning a few days ago, the computer (G4 dual processor, 500Mhz, 712 MB RAM, 40 GB hd) started making random noises, at least, a specific random noise, that sounds like a groan (sort of) and is NOT an alert sound I've chosen (I only have the default sounds installed, no custom ones). This noise doesn't seem to be trying to call my attention to anything, no apps giving messages, and it's not at the same time as or before a crash. I've run Virex 7 and no viruses/trojans/etc are found. Related?? Maybe, maybe not... but I kid you not! Hope someone comes up with an answer. Thanks, Gurukarm

07-31-2002, 03:49 PM	#20
gkkk4 Prospect Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Massachusetts, USA Posts: 8	more on Dreamweaver crashes Crash log as follows: Date/Time: 2002-07-31 15:40:10 -0400 OS Version: 10.1.5 (Build 5S60b) Command: Dreamweaver MX PID: 509 Exception: EXC_BAD_INSTRUCTION (0x0002) Code[0]: 0x00000002 Code[1]: 0x73146994 Thread 0: #0 0x73146994 in GetCurrentWindowContext__Fv #1 0x731b87b0 in GetWindowFromPlatformWindow #2 0x731ae020 in FindPlatformWindow #3 0x731cac04 in FindWindowCommon__FG5PointPP15OpaqueWindowPtrPs #4 0x731becac in FindWindowOfClass #5 0x731dacf8 in FindWindow #6 0x00d6cef8 in 0xd6cef8 #7 0x00d6d0b8 in 0xd6d0b8 #8 0x00d6c020 in 0xd6c020 #9 0x00d6beec in 0xd6beec #10 0x00d6be24 in 0xd6be24 #11 0x00d6f924 in 0xd6f924 #12 0x00d6f750 in 0xd6f750 Thread 1: #0 0x70000978 in mach_msg_overwrite_trap #1 0x70005a04 in mach_msg #2 0x70026a2c in _pthread_become_available #3 0x70026724 in pthread_exit #4 0x70020550 in _pthread_body #5 0x90010008 in 0x90010008 Thread 2: #0 0x70000978 in mach_msg_overwrite_trap #1 0x7024a0e8 in SwitchContexts #2 0x702c9eec in YieldToThread #3 0x70244b48 in SetThreadState #4 0x702bbbe4 in SetThreadStateEndCritical #5 0x00d2dc28 in 0xd2dc28 #6 0x00d2c8e4 in 0xd2c8e4 #7 0x00d2c7e0 in 0xd2c7e0 #8 0x00d2cbcc in 0xd2cbcc #9 0x00d2df64 in 0xd2df64 #10 0x7027ae50 in CooperativeThread #11 0x7002054c in _pthread_body Thread 3: #0 0x7000497c in syscall #1 0x70557600 in BSD_waitevent #2 0x70554b80 in CarbonSelectThreadFunc #3 0x7002054c in _pthread_body Thread 4: #0 0x7003f4c8 in semaphore_wait_signal_trap #1 0x7003f2c8 in _pthread_cond_wait #2 0x705593ec in CarbonOperationThreadFunc #3 0x7002054c in _pthread_body PPC Thread State: srr0: 0x73146994 srr1: 0x0008f030 vrsave: 0x00000000 xer: 0x00000014 lr: 0x731b87b0 ctr: 0x70000970 mq: 0x00000000 r0: 0x731ae020 r1: 0xbffff230 r2: 0x731dd734 r3: 0x00000008 r4: 0x00000003 r5: 0x00000034 r6: 0x0000003c r7: 0x00000e03 r8: 0x43300000 r9: 0x800000f7 r10: 0x00000008 r11: 0x77355310 r12: 0x70000970 r13: 0x00000000 r14: 0x00000013 r15: 0xbfffee58 r16: 0x000853d0 r17: 0x00000001 r18: 0x00607958 r19: 0x00002c03 r20: 0x00000000 r21: 0x0000001c r22: 0x70004234 r23: 0x700042c8 r24: 0x00000004 r25: 0x000006eb r26: 0x8081ab5c r27: 0x0005a730 r28: 0x00000000 r29: 0xbfffef00 r30: 0x8081d1cc r31: 0x00000001 ********** which is probably WAY more information than anyone's interested in... BUT, one thing that's interesting is that the Exception is EXC_BAD_INSTRUCTION(0x0002) and the Codes are Code[0]: 0x00000002 Code[1]: 0x73146994 rather than kernal information as others have posted. I know nothing about Unix; does this make sense to anyone? What does it mean? Thanks, Gurukarm

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06-17-2002, 11:51 PM	#1
bluehz MVP Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 1,531	Constant app crashes > KERN_INVALID_ADDRESS Starting about 2 days ago a large majority of my applications are crashing. Not always the same one, and sometimes they don't "Unexepectedly Quit" until you actually QUIT them anyway. Perusing the crash logs - every one of them has this as the crash msg: Exception: EXC_BAD_ACCESS (0x0001) Codes: KERN_INVALID_ADDRESS (0x0001) at 0x2d480000 This is getting to be a major problem! I posted on the Apple boards and no one has responded. Saw other posts regarding this issue - but no one has a solution and the closest thing to a suggestion for a fix is to clear out the font cache - which I did. I have also run a complete Disk Warrior on the drive and it is still occuring. Can anyone offer any suggestion of any kind what might be causing this issue? This is the first real problem I have had with OS X in a year, and it really stink - very OS 9 deja vu! Mac G4/400 (AGP) 1.2G RAM OS X 10.1.5

06-18-2002, 04:22 AM	#2
bassi Major Leaguer Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Paris, France Posts: 498	I've had the same problem Apps like Omniweb, Mozilla and Carracho have also crashed with the similar log you've displayed, I've searched around for the last two weeks and found no answer. Good luck!

06-18-2002, 06:22 AM	#3
vonleigh All Star Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 579	Hello, I don't know what a KERN_INVALID_ADDRESS is, but from what I gathered on the web, it shows up when a memory address is invalid. So one posibility is that you have bad ram if it happens continually. Do you have techtool or some utility that tests ram? (I'm assuming techtool tests ram). Do you have another partition with OS X that you can boot from? That would rule out software. I keep a small 5GB vanilla partition just in case; if I need anything stock I can just copy it over. Vonleigh Last edited by vonleigh; 06-18-2002 at 06:27 AM.

06-18-2002, 09:34 AM	#4
bluehz MVP Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 1,531	Everyone is suggesting RAM...I have not installed or moved any RAM on over a year and this week is the first sign of a problem. I doubt RAM would "go bad" but I may be wrong. Bassi - have you installed any new RAM recently or moved RAM, etc?

06-20-2002, 03:03 PM	#5
theRegent Prospect Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 28	RAM gone bad. You're right, it's not very likely for RAM to just turn sour, but even if you haven't moved the machine, it's certainly not impossible for it to become unseated. Temperature changes, air pressure shifts, etc. etc. etc. (The realm of the unexplainable is infinite.) Anyhoo, you might just save yourself some sanity by unplugging and opening up your box, grounding off any static electricity, and removing and reinserting your memory card(s). It's not the most likely culprit by a long shot, but it is one that might not show up to any software tool, even one designed to check memory. __________________ There are no spoons in New Arcadia. http://regency.newarcadia.com/

06-21-2002, 01:33 PM	#6
bassi Major Leaguer Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Paris, France Posts: 498	It's not the ram........ it's the info.plist for the apps. I trashed them for the problem apps and the problem dissolved away. I think it's only advisable if you think it's safe, although I was fed up and just did it. Maverick? Me? "I'd ride you're tail anytime"

06-21-2002, 03:55 PM	#8
bluehz MVP Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 1,531	Are you guys that are experiencing these same symptoms running anything modifying the keyboard? Just curious as I remember reading about PowerDelete casuing problems related to keyboards. I don't use PowerDelete, but I am using TypeIt4Me - which also messes with the keyboard. Wondering if this is a common thread we could track?

06-21-2002, 05:30 PM	#9
bassi Major Leaguer Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Paris, France Posts: 498	Info.plist I had three apps causing my major problems, so I just deleted three.

06-21-2002, 05:35 PM	#10
bluehz MVP Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 1,531	Wish I could narrow it down to three apps. There is no noticeable pattern on my machine. Not always the same apps...

06-24-2002, 01:17 PM	#11
logo Prospect Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 48	Well I'm using Key Xing and LiteSwitch! Same problem occuring, yet not that frequently... Peter

06-25-2002, 05:22 PM	#12
Cobalt Triple-A Player Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Issaquah, WA Posts: 83	Just to chime in, I've been having similar problems over the last week or so. I've mostly noticed it Illustrator 10. Today it happened repeatedly in Eudora 5.1.1, and since I haven't been using AI 10 too much lately, I at first thought it was a Eudora bug, but now I'm having second thoughts. Most of my crash logs have a line like this: Code: Exception: EXC_BAD_ACCESS (0x0001) Codes: KERN_PROTECTION_FAILURE (0x0002) at 0x00000015 For Eudora, the KERN thing was almost always "at 0x00000000" which seems like an odd place -- it's not in the middle of the memory, it's right at the very beginning (isn't it?). For AI 10, the crashes happen after at least 15 minutes of use, sometimes a half hour or more of (straight) use (but if I leave AI in the background all day long, that doesn't affect it). Does anyone have any ideas about what might be causing this? It just started happening within the last week or so, at about the same time I upgraded to 10.1.5. (Actually, I just went through the crash log, and every entry has been for OS version 10.1.5.) I may try deleting the info.plist files for the affected apps, but I'd rather not, especially since it seems to be related to 10.1.5....

06-28-2002, 04:29 PM	#13
bluehz MVP Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 1,531	I am REALLY started to get ticked off on this issue. Listen to us - talking about extensions, etc.......sounds just like pre-OS X days.

06-28-2002, 05:07 PM	#14
Cobalt Triple-A Player Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Issaquah, WA Posts: 83	Yeah, so much crashing is pretty annoying. I've been getting paranoid about saving stuff every 2 minutes when using Illustrator. Oddly, that seems to keep the crashes away. I guess it sort of makes sense, since the error messages seem to indicate a problem at a memory location; maybe whatever is causing the crash only happens when some between-saves-buffer gets too full... (or maybe I'm blowing smoke out my rear orifice, given how much I actually know about these things). Does anyone have any clue as to whether there's going to be a 10.1.6 or some such "fix" to these problems coming out, or will Apple just come out with Jaguar (ie. 10.2 or 10.5, whatever they call it)? Cobalt

07-05-2002, 11:10 AM	#16
jbmelby Prospect Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Salem, MA Posts: 28	My crashes are occurring in Toast Titanium 5.1.4. Version 5.1.3 works with no problem. Here's my crash log: Date/Time: 2002-07-05 08:03:20 -0500 OS Version: 10.1.5 (Build 5S66) Host: localhost Command: Toast Titanium PID: 633 Exception: EXC_BAD_ACCESS (0x0001) Codes: KERN_INVALID_ADDRESS (0x0001) at 0xc1f5ede8 Thread 0 Crashed: #0 0x706bab78 in objc_msgSend #1 0x70162ed4 in CFRelease #2 0x006e44ac in 0x6e44ac #3 0x006e4548 in 0x6e4548 #4 0x006e185c in 0x6e185c #5 0x00671b84 in 0x671b84 #6 0x00671be8 in 0x671be8 #7 0x0066cef8 in 0x66cef8 #8 0x005d99d0 in 0x5d99d0 #9 0x006091f0 in 0x6091f0 Thread 1: #0 0x70000978 in mach_msg_overwrite_trap #1 0x70005a04 in mach_msg #2 0x70026a2c in _pthread_become_available #3 0x70026724 in pthread_exit #4 0x70020550 in _pthread_body #5 0x9421ffa0 in 0x9421ffa0 Thread 2: #0 0x7003f4c8 in semaphore_wait_signal_trap #1 0x7003f2c8 in _pthread_cond_wait #2 0x006cc14c in 0x6cc14c #3 0x006c6328 in 0x6c6328 #4 0x006c5c24 in 0x6c5c24 #5 0x006c5524 in 0x6c5524 #6 0x006c8cfc in 0x6c8cfc #7 0x006c6c00 in 0x6c6c00 #8 0x006c6ab8 in 0x6c6ab8 #9 0x006c712c in 0x6c712c #10 0x006c95dc in 0x6c95dc #11 0x006c5fc4 in 0x6c5fc4 #12 0x7002054c in _pthread_body Thread 3: #0 0x70000978 in mach_msg_overwrite_trap #1 0x70005a04 in mach_msg #2 0x7017bf84 in __CFRunLoopRun #3 0x701b70ec in CFRunLoopRunSpecific #4 0x7017b8cc in CFRunLoopRunInMode #5 0x7061be08 in XIOAudioDeviceManager::NotificationThread(XIOAudioDeviceManager ) #6 0x706141c0 in CAPThread::Entry(CAPThread ) #7 0x7002054c in _pthread_body Thread 4: #0 0x70000978 in mach_msg_overwrite_trap #1 0x70005a04 in mach_msg #2 0x7017bf84 in __CFRunLoopRun #3 0x701b70ec in CFRunLoopRunSpecific #4 0x7017b878 in CFRunLoopRun #5 0x02937760 in -[MyCameraCentral wiringThread:] #6 0x70842358 in forkThreadForFunction #7 0x7002054c in _pthread_body PPC Thread State: srr0: 0x706bab78 srr1: 0x0200d030 vrsave: 0x00000000 xer: 0x00000018 lr: 0x70162ed4 ctr: 0x706bab4c mq: 0x00000000 r0: 0xc1b46ce0 r1: 0xbffff150 r2: 0x7018e3f8 r3: 0x0280c4a0 r4: 0x706d1b38 r5: 0x00000024 r6: 0x0000002c r7: 0x00000e03 r8: 0x80162e24 r9: 0x00418108 r10: 0x0000357b r11: 0xffffffff r12: 0x706d1b38 r13: 0x00000000 r14: 0x00000000 r15: 0x00000000 r16: 0x00000001 r17: 0x00000007 r18: 0x008d4e90 r19: 0x008db380 r20: 0x008db2c0 r21: 0x008d4bc0 r22: 0x008b2350 r23: 0x008af6bc r24: 0x008af6c0 r25: 0x028095a0 r26: 0x00000000 r27: 0x00000000 r28: 0x706bab4c r29: 0x0280c4a0 r30: 0x801608b4 r31: 0x70162e24 ********** Any ideas?

07-05-2002, 03:51 PM	#17
bluehz MVP Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 1,531	I can pretty much guarantee after I wake my machine - a dialog will be onscreen "Application XXX has unexpectdly quit" Not always the same one - seems completely random.