IRC server for macosxhints?

mule · 07-08-2002, 09:55 AM

Do people of macosxhints meet on IRC? If so, where is that, or is that majorly secret hehe

If you do not have the ressources to run a server, I just might, I am willing to sponsor one, if you need one.

Just thought I should ask.

-d

saint.duo · 07-08-2002, 09:43 PM

I think that would be cool to have a macosxhints IRC channel...

eagle_eyes · 01-22-2003, 10:20 PM

or howabout just using one of the irc servers already out there and registering a channel? It would be fun to have an irc channel

sbur · 01-23-2003, 07:56 AM

I'm just starting to think about using instant messaging and IRC. (I've been hesitant because I can easily see this as too big a time-suck....) I, too, think it would be kind of cool to have one for OS X hints.

Jacques · 01-23-2003, 12:58 PM

Doesn't iChat allow for 'chat rooms'? I use to use FIRE (a bit of Proteus at first, but not at all anymore) and ADIUM all the time, but I really do enjoy the iChat integration with Jaguar.

What should the room name be? MACOSXHINTS sound reasonable? I'll go there tonight and check to see if anyone has established the room.. :)

Jacques

griffman · 01-23-2003, 02:35 PM

People have asked me about this a few times, so here are my thoughts...

It would be pretty cool...
iChat rooms are OK, but once they get over about 10 or so, they become hard to manage (no "manager" per se, for one).
IRC would probably be best.
I have no time to look at anything like this...
I have no knowledge to look at anything like this (is there a cost? how does it work? etc.).
I would probably be too busy to stop by very often...

So if someone wants to help me with (4) and (5), I'm open to the concept ... as long as people realize that (6) will probably remain true for the forseeable future :-).

-rob.

eagle_eyes · 01-23-2003, 02:58 PM

There are plenty of servers for IRC out there, and it should cost nothing to use. I have a server that I would propose to use: irc.darkmyst.org It is mostly used by gamers, but it works well with firewalls, and I have had not problems using it with SNAK, and IRCLE. I am on a lot and would be glad to help moderate and setup the channel. Any objections?

sbur · 01-23-2003, 03:53 PM

Would you help an ignorant user such as myself join in the fun? (i.e. what client to use, how to join, etc.)

eagle_eyes · 01-23-2003, 09:16 PM

I prefer snak, but there are many other good options as well. You can get the software from version tracker, just do a search for irc or for snak.

As for how to connect.... I have set up a channel with darkmyst. To connect you will need to add the server to the list, as it does not come preconfigured. The server name is irc.darkmyst.org, then when you get in type /join #macosxhints and you will be connected with the channel. I will try to get screen shots of every step along the way posted latter.

I hope that this will work for everyone!

griffman · 01-24-2003, 09:12 AM

Once we've tested this for a while (thanks, eagle_eyes!), I'll put a blurb up on the main site...

Worked perfectly for me first try, too :-).

-rob.

Jacques · 01-24-2003, 10:12 AM

If you already use Mozilla, an IRC client is built-in - you won't have to install any other programs and it works well.

griffman · 01-24-2003, 10:51 AM

Or if you really want to do it the UNIX way, install Apple's X11, then install fink, follow fink's instructions to enable the Apple X11 implementation, and then install xchat via fink ;-).

-rob.

maousse · 01-24-2003, 11:02 AM

There is also a native, free, os x port of xchat :
x-chat aqua

griffman · 01-24-2003, 11:04 AM

Ah, but what fun is that? :-)

[Didn't know about that one; thanks for the pointer!]

-rob.

Jacques · 01-24-2003, 12:57 PM

X-Chat is actually pretty nice, SNAK and IRCLE are not freeware.. I haven't lauched Mozilla in quite a while, I may not even have it installed any longer! (Chimera / Safari primaries)

sbur · 01-24-2003, 04:49 PM

How do I set this up in X-chat? (Not as straight forward as Snaks.)

I've modified the ./xchat2/serv_.conf file to add darkmyst at the above address. I can connect, but I don't seem to be able to join the macosxhints channel.

[edit] I'm not sure what I just did, but I got in....I don't know if I could do it again, though.

artgeek · 02-09-2003, 08:15 PM

For Xchat Aqua:

I chose a server I never would use in the 'server list', and pasted in irc.darkmyst.org. Delete any alternate servers for the one you replaced. Then change the server name to Darkmyst. Hit connect -> you're in. Thanks EagleEyes for the assist.

see you all there...

ag

(hey, rob what's up with the main macosxhints page?? oopps! its back now. never mind)

Hes Nikke · 02-09-2003, 09:19 PM

FYI, there is a nice IRC client called OpenMac that is designed for IRC newbies, and those to lazy to learn the ins and outs of IRC (like how to set up a client) it connects to a single channel (#openmac) on a single server (frenode) and you are away chatting within seconds of fireing up the app.

since this client is open source, it is _extreamly_ easy to recompile it to connect to any channel/server.

unfortonaly i don't have time to deal with 3 projects based on the OM source, but anyone with the developer tools can retool OM to work with any other channel and post the precompiled client for anyone who isn't that confortable with IRC to use

saint.duo · 02-10-2003, 02:19 AM

I'm going to take a shot at recompiling openmac for the macosxhints chat room. Give me a few hours, days, whatever. I'll post the result here when I'm done.

edit
Well, I got it connecting properly. I am now going through and trying to remove all reminants of it being "OpenMac", and customizing it for our channel. I will probably disable the irc nickname registration wizard in the first release, and fix it later. I'm also working on getting the version server working (which is just a matter of me actually doing it). For now, the name is "XHintsChat", and I'm wondering what people think of this. Email me at xhintschat@freefallsoftware.com and let me know what you think of the name, or post here so everyone can see your opinion. I personally don't care what the app name is.

saint.duo · 02-10-2003, 04:02 PM

It's finished. For now, the nickname registration wizard is disabled. The only thing missing is an icon. I tried to throw together something with an "X" and "#macosxhints" on it, but it looks terrible. So, if someone is feeling artistically inclined, I'd be happy to take icon submissions in either .psd (photoshop) or .icns format. Send them to the email address in the previous post, I've got 15MB of space I can use for attachments and such. As a development build (low optimization, debugging symbols on), it comes out to 3.2MB, or 1MB compressed. So, it should be fairly small when I compile the release build.
I made toolbar buttons for the main macosxhints page, the main forums page, the rules of the road anchor in the forums faq, freefall's site, and an email contact to freefall for support and such.
Version checking is working, and the app no longer contains references to OpenMac, except for the necessary license stuff. I am now waiting for the blessings of the OpenMac team to distribute it.

edit
Well, this copy is now authorized, so I can tell everyone where to get it.

The app name became "XHintsChat", and you can get it here.
Version checking does work, so if you use it, you'll know when a new version is available. It connects directly to the macosxhints irc channel. Enjoy Everyone!

07-08-2002, 09:55 AM	#1
mule Triple-A Player Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Lanx Posts: 95	IRC server for macosxhints? Do people of macosxhints meet on IRC? If so, where is that, or is that majorly secret hehe If you do not have the ressources to run a server, I just might, I am willing to sponsor one, if you need one. Just thought I should ask. -d

01-23-2003, 02:35 PM	#6
griffman Site Admin Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Portland, OR Posts: 1,441	People have asked me about this a few times, so here are my thoughts... It would be pretty cool... iChat rooms are OK, but once they get over about 10 or so, they become hard to manage (no "manager" per se, for one). IRC would probably be best. I have no time to look at anything like this... I have no knowledge to look at anything like this (is there a cost? how does it work? etc.). I would probably be too busy to stop by very often... So if someone wants to help me with (4) and (5), I'm open to the concept ... as long as people realize that (6) will probably remain true for the forseeable future :-). -rob.

01-24-2003, 04:49 PM	#16
sbur Major Leaguer Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Saint Peter, MN Posts: 330	How do I set this up in X-chat? (Not as straight forward as Snaks.) I've modified the ./xchat2/serv_.conf file to add darkmyst at the above address. I can connect, but I don't seem to be able to join the macosxhints channel. [edit] I'm not sure what I just did, but I got in....I don't know if I could do it again, though. Last edited by sbur; 01-24-2003 at 05:13 PM.

02-09-2003, 09:19 PM	#18
Hes Nikke Prospect Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Sebastopol Posts: 15	OpenMac FYI, there is a nice IRC client called OpenMac that is designed for IRC newbies, and those to lazy to learn the ins and outs of IRC (like how to set up a client) it connects to a single channel (#openmac) on a single server (frenode) and you are away chatting within seconds of fireing up the app. since this client is open source, it is _extreamly_ easy to recompile it to connect to any channel/server. unfortonaly i don't have time to deal with 3 projects based on the OM source, but anyone with the developer tools can retool OM to work with any other channel and post the precompiled client for anyone who isn't that confortable with IRC to use

02-10-2003, 02:19 AM	#19
saint.duo MVP Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Seattle Posts: 1,033	Coolness I'm going to take a shot at recompiling openmac for the macosxhints chat room. Give me a few hours, days, whatever. I'll post the result here when I'm done. edit Well, I got it connecting properly. I am now going through and trying to remove all reminants of it being "OpenMac", and customizing it for our channel. I will probably disable the irc nickname registration wizard in the first release, and fix it later. I'm also working on getting the version server working (which is just a matter of me actually doing it). For now, the name is "XHintsChat", and I'm wondering what people think of this. Email me at xhintschat@freefallsoftware.com and let me know what you think of the name, or post here so everyone can see your opinion. I personally don't care what the app name is. Last edited by saint.duo; 02-10-2003 at 04:54 AM.

07-08-2002, 09:43 PM	#2
saint.duo MVP Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Seattle Posts: 1,033	I think that would be cool to have a macosxhints IRC channel...

01-22-2003, 10:20 PM	#3
eagle_eyes Triple-A Player Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 116	or howabout just using one of the irc servers already out there and registering a channel? It would be fun to have an irc channel

01-23-2003, 07:56 AM	#4
sbur Major Leaguer Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Saint Peter, MN Posts: 330	I'm just starting to think about using instant messaging and IRC. (I've been hesitant because I can easily see this as too big a time-suck....) I, too, think it would be kind of cool to have one for OS X hints.

01-23-2003, 12:58 PM	#5
Jacques All Star Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: New York, NY Posts: 940	Doesn't iChat allow for 'chat rooms'? I use to use FIRE (a bit of Proteus at first, but not at all anymore) and ADIUM all the time, but I really do enjoy the iChat integration with Jaguar. What should the room name be? MACOSXHINTS sound reasonable? I'll go there tonight and check to see if anyone has established the room.. :) Jacques

01-23-2003, 02:58 PM	#7
eagle_eyes Triple-A Player Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 116	There are plenty of servers for IRC out there, and it should cost nothing to use. I have a server that I would propose to use: irc.darkmyst.org It is mostly used by gamers, but it works well with firewalls, and I have had not problems using it with SNAK, and IRCLE. I am on a lot and would be glad to help moderate and setup the channel. Any objections?

01-23-2003, 03:53 PM	#8
sbur Major Leaguer Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Saint Peter, MN Posts: 330	Would you help an ignorant user such as myself join in the fun? (i.e. what client to use, how to join, etc.)

01-23-2003, 09:16 PM	#9
eagle_eyes Triple-A Player Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 116	I prefer snak, but there are many other good options as well. You can get the software from version tracker, just do a search for irc or for snak. As for how to connect.... I have set up a channel with darkmyst. To connect you will need to add the server to the list, as it does not come preconfigured. The server name is irc.darkmyst.org, then when you get in type /join #macosxhints and you will be connected with the channel. I will try to get screen shots of every step along the way posted latter. I hope that this will work for everyone!

01-24-2003, 09:12 AM	#10
griffman Site Admin Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Portland, OR Posts: 1,441	Once we've tested this for a while (thanks, eagle_eyes!), I'll put a blurb up on the main site... Worked perfectly for me first try, too :-). -rob.

01-24-2003, 10:12 AM	#11
Jacques All Star Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: New York, NY Posts: 940	If you already use Mozilla, an IRC client is built-in - you won't have to install any other programs and it works well.

01-24-2003, 10:51 AM	#12
griffman Site Admin Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Portland, OR Posts: 1,441	Or if you really want to do it the UNIX way, install Apple's X11, then install fink, follow fink's instructions to enable the Apple X11 implementation, and then install xchat via fink ;-). -rob.

01-24-2003, 11:02 AM	#13
maousse Prospect Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: stinky cheese country Posts: 11	There is also a native, free, os x port of xchat : x-chat aqua

01-24-2003, 11:04 AM	#14
griffman Site Admin Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Portland, OR Posts: 1,441	Ah, but what fun is that? :-) [Didn't know about that one; thanks for the pointer!] -rob.

01-24-2003, 12:57 PM	#15
Jacques All Star Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: New York, NY Posts: 940	X-Chat is actually pretty nice, SNAK and IRCLE are not freeware.. I haven't lauched Mozilla in quite a while, I may not even have it installed any longer! (Chimera / Safari primaries)

02-09-2003, 08:15 PM	#17
artgeek Prospect Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: bend Posts: 18	For Xchat Aqua: I chose a server I never would use in the 'server list', and pasted in irc.darkmyst.org. Delete any alternate servers for the one you replaced. Then change the server name to Darkmyst. Hit connect -> you're in. Thanks EagleEyes for the assist. see you all there... ag (hey, rob what's up with the main macosxhints page?? oopps! its back now. never mind)

02-10-2003, 04:02 PM	#20
saint.duo MVP Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Seattle Posts: 1,033	It's finished. For now, the nickname registration wizard is disabled. The only thing missing is an icon. I tried to throw together something with an "X" and "#macosxhints" on it, but it looks terrible. So, if someone is feeling artistically inclined, I'd be happy to take icon submissions in either .psd (photoshop) or .icns format. Send them to the email address in the previous post, I've got 15MB of space I can use for attachments and such. As a development build (low optimization, debugging symbols on), it comes out to 3.2MB, or 1MB compressed. So, it should be fairly small when I compile the release build. I made toolbar buttons for the main macosxhints page, the main forums page, the rules of the road anchor in the forums faq, freefall's site, and an email contact to freefall for support and such. Version checking is working, and the app no longer contains references to OpenMac, except for the necessary license stuff. I am now waiting for the blessings of the OpenMac team to distribute it. edit Well, this copy is now authorized, so I can tell everyone where to get it. The app name became "XHintsChat", and you can get it here. Version checking does work, so if you use it, you'll know when a new version is available. It connects directly to the macosxhints irc channel. Enjoy Everyone! Last edited by saint.duo; 02-10-2003 at 06:40 PM.

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